Arctic National Wildlife Refuge drilling

[AlumniClub]

Link:
http://www.exxposeexxon.com/action/
ExxonMobil is actively lobbying Congress to open our pristine Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, sabotaging desperately-needed efforts to slow global warming, trying to avoid paying the money it still owes fishermen and other Alaskans hurt by the Exxon Valdez spill 16 years ago, and refusing to put its huge profits to good use developing clean, renewable energy or supporting fuel efficiency.

It's time for us to take matters into our own hands and Take Action by Exxposing Exxon!
WHAT YOU CAN DO
Call on ExxonMobil's New CEO to Change Course, Put Huge Profits to Good Use!
Despite earning a record-breaking $36.13 billion in profits in 2005, ExxonMobil still refuses to invest in safe, efficient renewable energy like wind and solar, and will not pay the damages it owes to Alaska fishermen hurt by the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. Call on brand new CEO Rex Tillerson to ask him to change the companies course for the better in 2006 before it's too late.
Tell New ExxonMobil CEO To Change Course
http://ga3.org/campaign/ExxonMobil

[Crys]

The only voice a corporation can hear is the one that comes out of your wallet. My wallet speaks very loudly and it says "no more of my money goes to ExxonMobil".

There's also a petition you can sign at the Petition Site:

"Boycott ExxonMobil Until It Becomes a Responsible Corporate Citizen!"
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/705437564

[talleyJudy]

I, for one, think (not feel) that ANWR ought to be opened to oil exploration and drilling. The waters off the coast of Calif. and Fla. ought to be opened too.

As for "global warming", the earth had gone through several cycles of warming and cooling long before man came on the scene. One mega volcano can spew more "greenhouse gasses' than man has produced in man's whole history. Whatever the cycles may be in the future, the species of man will adapt. Isn't that what the doctrine of evolution is all about? :P

Expecting Exxon to invest in alternative energy is very unrealistic. Exxon is in the OIL BUSINESS!! That would by like asking my husband who manages, logs, and saws about 150a of forrest land to go into the manufacture of plastics, or steel.

This is still America (for the time being), free enterprise (sort of..) with capitalism (while the 'progressives' are chipping away at it), so you had better hurry up and start your own alternative energy business. Now is the time! Get in on the ground floor so that after years and years of development and inve$tment you too can be raking in the big buck$!!

By the way, Exxon's return (read profit) averages between $0.06 - $0.08
on the $1.00 invested (read money tied up in capital). Which is the low end of the median profit range of most large corporations.

P.S.
BUY AMERICAN
(ie. '57 Chev BelAire
'64 Chev Impala
'73 Chev Laguna
'80 Chev Citation - still in service
'72 Chev PU Longhorn - still in service
'78 Chev PU 4x4 - still in service
'92 Saturn LS4 - used to be our NEW car - still in service!
'05 Chev Malibu - our NEW car!!! the thrill is still alive!
and too many Red Wing work boot to count (usually one new pair a year. ))

[andy]

Originally Posted by talleyJudy

As for "global warming", the earth had gone through several cycles of warming and cooling long before man came on the scene. One mega volcano can spew more "greenhouse gasses' than man has produced in man's whole history. Whatever the cycles may be in the future, the species of man will adapt. Isn't that what the doctrine of evolution is all about? :P

No, some species will adapt, if life is still sustainable. Man won't necessarily adapt.

Expecting Exxon to invest in alternative energy is very unrealistic. Exxon is in the OIL BUSINESS!! That would by like asking my husband who manages, logs, and saws about 150a of forrest land to go into the manufacture of plastics, or steel.

I don't think it's unrealistic at all. When VHS tapes started being phased out companies moved on to producing DVDs. We didn't subsidize companies that specialized in producing outdated technology to try and keep them alive.

This is still America (for the time being), free enterprise (sort of..) with capitalism (while the 'progressives' are chipping away at it), so you had better hurry up and start your own alternative energy business. Now is the time! Get in on the ground floor so that after years and years of development and inve$tment you too can be raking in the big buck$!!

I can't tell what you're getting at here. You seem to be sarcastically going in two different directions.

By the way, Exxon's return (read profit) averages between $0.06 - $0.08
on the $1.00 invested (read money tied up in capital). Which is the low end of the median profit range of most large corporations.

P.S.
BUY AMERICAN
(ie. '57 Chev BelAire
'64 Chev Impala
'73 Chev Laguna
'80 Chev Citation - still in service
'72 Chev PU Longhorn - still in service
'78 Chev PU 4x4 - still in service
'92 Saturn LS4 - used to be our NEW car - still in service!
'05 Chev Malibu - our NEW car!!! the thrill is still alive!
and too many Red Wing work boot to count (usually one new pair a year. ))

I don't care how much money they make or don't make. Once these wildlife areas are gone, they're gone.

This is a whole different arguement, but "Buy American" is a fallacy too. You don't think Chevy gets parts from other countries? Or that Toyota doesn't have American plants and workers? I challenge you to find a car that is completely manufactured in the US, using parts made in the US. What difference does it make what name is on the car, shouldn't you just buy the best quality vehicle out there?

[talleyJudy]

if life is still sustainable. Man won't necessarily adapt.

Ummm, just how much global heating are you planning on? Man is just one of the various species of 'critters' that live here, and yes, man might have a very limited local impact, but man is not powerful enough to effect the natural cycles and upheavels of nature. We are only part of nature, we do not control 'nature'.

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This is still America (for the time being), free enterprise (sort of..) with capitalism (while the 'progressives' are chipping away at it), so you had better hurry up and start your own alternative energy business. Now is the time! Get in on the ground floor so that after years and years of development and inve$tment you too can be raking in the big buck$!!


I can't tell what you're getting at here. You seem to be sarcastically going in two different directions.

How can you not tell what I'm getting at! What about "start your own alternative energy business" can you not understand? :roll:



Of course Chevy gets parts off shore, but when I buy a Chevrolet (I don't knos about Chrysler or Ford anymore, since their European 'parnerships') the CORPORATE PROFIT stays here; if I buy a Tyota, the CORPORATE PROFIT goes to Japan.



The 'footprint' of the proposed drilling station in ANWR is proportional to a standad business envelope lying on an NFL football field. The local critters will move and adjust. Or maybe they will move in closer to the station as they have in other areas, like the pipeline, Cape Canaveral, the Space Research Center in Huntsville Al, etc.

[andy]

Originally Posted by talleyJudy

Ummm, just how much global heating are you planning on? Man is just one of the various species of 'critters' that live here, and yes, man might have a very limited local impact, but man is not powerful enough to effect the natural cycles and upheavels of nature. We are only part of nature, we do not control 'nature'.

Haha, right. No species is guaranteed survival on this planet. Just look at how many man has hunted to extinction.

How can you not tell what I'm getting at! What about "start your own alternative energy business" can you not understand? :roll:

I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not. I guess I know now. :roll:

Of course Chevy gets parts off shore, but when I buy a Chevrolet (I don't knos about Chrysler or Ford anymore, since their European 'parnerships') the CORPORATE PROFIT stays here; if I buy a Tyota, the CORPORATE PROFIT goes to Japan.

Even if you were right about this, how would it hurt us? Does it matter if to you whether an American CEO or a Japanese CEO gets rich? Americans are still being employed and the companies are paying taxes here.

The 'footprint' of the proposed drilling station in ANWR is proportional to a standad business envelope lying on an NFL football field. The local critters will move and adjust. Or maybe they will move in closer to the station as they have in other areas, like the pipeline, Cape Canaveral, the Space Research Center in Huntsville Al, etc.

Yeah, you're right. I'm sure the animals would love to have humans drilling for oil. The 'footprint' of the neighbor's dog poop in my yard is small, but that doesn't mean I want it there or it doesn't bother me.

[Crys]

Ummm, just how much global heating are you planning on? Man is just one of the various species of 'critters' that live here, and yes, man might have a very limited local impact, but man is not powerful enough to effect the natural cycles and upheavels of nature. We are only part of nature, we do not control 'nature'.

We are heading rapidly for what I've seen called "Venusification." Now, in several billion years, it will happen anyway, as our sun continues to get older... however, our actions now are pushing us toward an edge -- one that no one is exactly sure where it is -- over which we will cause it to happen in the lifetimes of our children or grandchildren or maybe even our own. When that happens, there won't be this gradual warming with the resulting glacial loss and rising sea level. The planet will cease to support life as we know it. Period. It will resemble Venus, so if you want to know the end result of unchecked global warming, just go look up Venus at NASA's web site.

So, yes, someday when the cycles have righted themselves, there may be life again, probably evolved from cockroaches or something equally hardy that managed to mutate quickly enough to escape extinction in the mass suicide we're currently involved in. But not us or anything remotely like we have now.