Right out of the Liberal/Progressive playbook. Obamas using scare tactics to try and pass whatever debacle comes out of Congress. Doesn't matter what it is, just get it passed or it's the end of our country. Just like global warming.
This is the guy that wrote the Senate version of "health care/insurance reform".
He's drunk on the floor of the Senate. Nice. I wonder if he was drunk when he wrote the bill. This is the condition your Liberal/Progressives are in when they're taking over 17% of the economy. Gotta be drunk to keep a straight face while telling lies. It's no wonder they wanted to call it "Kennedy Care".
Charles Krauthammer is always brilliant. He relates Obamas fall to healthcare.
Liberals try to attribute Obama's political decline to matters of style. He's too cool, detached, uninvolved. He's not tough, angry or aggressive enough with opponents. He's contracted out too much of his agenda to Congress.
These stylistic and tactical complaints may be true, but they miss the major point: The reason for today's vast discontent, presaged by spontaneous national Tea Party opposition, is not that Obama is too cool or compliant but that he's too left.
It's taken a year, but the White House press corp is finally getting fed up with this sarcastic clown. He's the king of not answering a question, then when asked to clarify or to actually give an answer, he'll say "I've already answered that and my answer won't change".
He thinks his snarkyness is cute and funny, but these folks aren't putting up with it much anymore. The one year "give him a chance" grace period appears to be over. That's what's really bugging him, the glow is gone.
Americans need to ask a basic question: Why are they rushing into a system of government-dominated health care when the very countries that have experienced it for so long are backing away?
I have a feeling I am opening a can or worms here, but... can you tell me exactly which countries are backing away? See I come from one of those countries that has socialized healthcare and never had a problem there.
I have a feeling I am opening a can or worms here, but... can you tell me exactly which countries are backing away? See I come from one of those countries that has socialized healthcare and never had a problem there.
Well, off the top of my head:
Canada is offering private alternatives, Czech Republic, Sweden and even Great Britain is starting to offer some private alternatives.
Glad you never had a problem. But I'd be willing to bet that your country hasn't done a fraction of the R&D, Breakthroughs of new and improved drugs, new and improved procedures, new and improved equipment, etc...
All of that costs money and all of it is taken for granted in countries that use it.
The private sector drives innovation. Socialize Americas health care and innovation comes to a halt.
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Couple interesting articles about the health care system in Portugal. Sounds like it isn't too bad as long as you don't get sick.
Technology. Portugal is seriously lacking in medical technology. The U.S. has 7 times more MRI units per person than Portugal and 20% more CT scanners.
Waiting Times. Waiting times are very long in Portugal. Further, there are often long waits for specialist visits. The European Observatory on Health Systems says the Portugal is heading towards “de facto rationing.” Because of this, many Portuguese either go to Spain for treatment or head to the emergency department. In fact, “at least 25 percent of emergency room patients do not need immediate treatment.”
Benefits Covered. On paper, all benefits are covered, but in reality, many benefits–such as dental care and rehabilitation–are rarely provided.
The other negative often cited by those expatriates who have retired to Portugal already is that the health care system is poorer, lesser funded and more basic than that available in Spain or Italy for example, and that getting decent health care requires additional insurance which pushes up the cost of living. Added to this fact is the issue relating to nursing care and home assistance for those who require a lengthy stay in hospital or who have an ongoing requirement for assistance. A lot of the traditional roles nurses take on in the UK for example are taken on by family in Portugal – so your partner or family members may be required to feed you, change and wash bed linen etc., and home help may be impossible to come by or impossible to afford.
Canada is offering private alternatives, Czech Republic, Sweden and even Great Britain is starting to offer some private alternatives.
Most countries with socialized healthcare also offer private alternatives and this is not something new. Great Britain was already offering such when I lived there over 20 years ago.
Couple interesting articles about the health care system in Portugal. Sounds like it isn't too bad as long as you don't get sick.
Technology. Portugal is seriously lacking in medical technology. The U.S. has 7 times more MRI units per person than Portugal and 20% more CT scanners.
Waiting Times. Waiting times are very long in Portugal. Further, there are often long waits for specialist visits. The European Observatory on Health Systems says the Portugal is heading towards “de facto rationing.” Because of this, many Portuguese either go to Spain for treatment or head to the emergency department. In fact, “at least 25 percent of emergency room patients do not need immediate treatment.”
Benefits Covered. On paper, all benefits are covered, but in reality, many benefits–such as dental care and rehabilitation–are rarely provided.
The other negative often cited by those expatriates who have retired to Portugal already is that the health care system is poorer, lesser funded and more basic than that available in Spain or Italy for example, and that getting decent health care requires additional insurance which pushes up the cost of living. Added to this fact is the issue relating to nursing care and home assistance for those who require a lengthy stay in hospital or who have an ongoing requirement for assistance. A lot of the traditional roles nurses take on in the UK for example are taken on by family in Portugal – so your partner or family members may be required to feed you, change and wash bed linen etc., and home help may be impossible to come by or impossible to afford.
Ok a few points. First of all. Expats? sorry, but I do recall when I lived there expats, whether from the US or Britain would always find every reason to complain about it all. Even my husband (and Irish American from Boston) would tell in their face, "just go home then!"
Are there lines? yes there are, but as you pointed out if you require immediate attention you can go to the emergency room. A lot of people going to emergency even not urgent, well that happens everywhere. Even here in the States.
Families taking care of elderly or other family members: This has to do with the society per say, with family moral values. That is what we do, much like a young person does not leave the nest unless he or she is getting married. Often you will find 40 or 50 year old people who never got married so still live with their parents.
Technology may indeed be lacking compared to the states but oddly enough innovation is not.
Portuguese people going to Spain or Italy: That is the first I ever heard of (But I will check with family members that are in the healthcare)
My own personal experience (even though I did not live that long in Portugal)
Had my oldest daughter in Portugal at a public hospital (sure I shared a room with 5 other women, but would do it all over again), I was extremely well treated, barely ever had to wait.
Had Thyroid gland removed. Until I saw a specialist it took 2 weeks (did not have to go first to my primary physician as I do here), had the operation 3 weeks later. Got the results of biopsy 1 week later
My Mother just went through second time of having Breast Cancer. Had surgery, chemo treatments, etc... as it was stage 3, they was seen and taken care of right away. First time she had it here, for her she said the treatment of care was the exact same.
Look, every healthcare system has its good and bad. There is no perfect system as there is no perfect government. If not am sure we all would use the same system. Now I do believe that healthcare is a right, much as our kids going to school is a right. I have them in public schools (because I believe in them) as I would support a public healthcare. Leave the private insurances for those that want or can afford them.
lol... I was reading one of your links about retiring in Portugal and had to laugh at this one:
"Additional positives that may have you answering ‘yes’ to the question should you retire to Portugal are the pace of life and standard of living – although the pace of life can take some getting used to! If you move away from tourism towns in Portugal and integrate into Portuguese communities don’t be surprised to learn that paying utility bills and getting things done can take you the best part of a day"
For the past 20 years you can pay every single utility bill at ANY ATM. or of course online just like here. I never ever waited in lines.
another interesting quote:
"For example, Portuguese has to be one of the hardest European languages to get to grips with and many who have retired to Portugal already find that they never grasp more than the basics making total integration impossible. "
Try going to Spain or France and find a local who is willing to talk to you in English. Portugal is very known to be a country that opens arms to foreigners (afterall we have the ocean to one side and Spain to the other) and most people speak English and/or French! Do not forget TV is not dubbed, while in other European countries it is. Actually When I lived in Spain it was funny hearing JR from Dallas speaking Spanish!
50% of American health care is already government run. Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, State plans, etc.
The other 50% that is private, completely subsidizes the government half. That's the main reason insurance rates exceed what would be considered reasonable.
When the 50% that's private disappears, there's nothing left to subsidize the government. As well as when our private system disappears, there's nothing left to subsidize the world in advancements of technology, drugs and procedures.
Bottom line, the government system is what has destroyed our health care system. Mainly through State mandates and underpayments by the Feds. Now we should simply turn it over completely.
Good plan.
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Anyone who would stand before you and say 'well, if you pass health care reform next year's health care premiums are going down,' I don't think is telling the truth. I think it is likely they would go up.
Here's an example of how the free market works. Getting government out is the answer, not making them bigger.
Read the story and then imagine if we would also have Tort refrom, State Mandate reform and Illegal Immigration reform. All of which costs exactly zero dollars.
Being a Christian group is unimportant to this story. It could be any kind of group you could imagine. What they are doing is the important part of the story.
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Let's do a little math for the professor here. Let's say that your premiums are a total of $1000 per month. You pay your share, your employer pays his share, whatever that is.
So, under Obamas plan of a 3000% premium reduction, the premium turns into a reimbursement of $30,000 per month! Good deal. You believe it?
Now with all that, I'm supposed to trust him to run the entire health care industry which comprises about 17% of the entire economy?
Please tell me that nobody (except Obama) is that stupid. I'm not.
Of course in classic Obama fashion, he claims that this isn't partisan and then proceeds to bash Republicans.
Hypocrite.
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Now I feel stupid. Here I've been saying that Obama is the dumbest president ever, and he proves me wrong by saying something I never knew.
If we just would have had Government healthcare when Hawaii had their earthquake, so many more people would have been helped.
I didn't know that Hawaii had an earthquake here recently.
I still don't know how all you lib's got the idea that he was the smartest man ever to run for President. All you have to do is listen to what he says, and it's clear he's out of his league. But thank God that idiot Bush is gone right?
Here's the list of junk in the reconciliation bill. Doesn't really matter, it'll never pass anyway. Once the Senate bill gets passed in the House, ObamaCare is the law of the land and this reconciliation hocus pocus is meaningless.
Some of my fav's:
#53
Would prevent this bill from taking effect until the Office of Management and Budget certifies that the federal budget deficit has been eliminated
Ya, that'll happen.
#68
Would strike all taxes in the bill.
This one too.
#85
Would require any business that is characterized as a minority owned business or small business concern (as defined by section 3 of the Small Business Act, 15 U.S.C. 632) is exempt from all employer mandates.
Sounds fair to me.
#38
Would strike all provisions related to student lending reforms in the reconciliation bill.
There's a thought.
#78
Would prohibit the bill from taking effect until the Medicare Trustees publish projections that show that Medicare is solvent for the next 30 years.
Sure, I'll trust this'll happen.
#74
Would prevent the bill from taking effect until Medicare and Medicaid are solvent for the next 20 years.
I thought it was 30...........
And you all think that ObamaCare is somehow going to solve what exactly?
Here's what happens when you drop a smart person in the middle of a bunch of Democrats (That are still repeating the lie that Republicans have no plan)
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