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Old 04-25-2010, 12:51 AM   #451 (permalink)
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I don't believe it has ever been proven that man is causing any increase in Global Temps.

Even if he is, what is so so wrong with the temps going up? History will show that man did much better during the warm cycles, and did real real poorly during the ice ages. 'Nuff said!
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I don't believe it has ever been proven that man is causing any increase in Global Temps.

Even if he is, what is so so wrong with the temps going up? History will show that man did much better during the warm cycles, and did real real poorly during the ice ages. 'Nuff said!
There is no evidence that mankind causes global temperatures to vary one way or the other. All the automobile emissions and industrial by-products don't have a lasting effect on the planet. The scars even disappear. Let the blame rest on the earth, or mother nature, itself. The Earth is doing it to itself. Underwater volcanic activity warms the sea water, and changing the currents, lowers the sea levels because of evaporation. The increased water vapor in the air creates more storms, and a more severe weather condition in general. Scientists have recently speculated that warmer sea water temperatures was a major contribution to the dinosaurs going extinct.

As far as Carbon Dioxide (CO) being deemed as a pollutant, the plants would disagree. Anything that breathes would disagree, unless they have their head stuck in Al Gore's rectum.

We have another ice age coming. It's cyclic.
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You gotta wonder how much the left really believes their rhetoric when they want to "go green", but "not in my backyard".

Perhaps the most prominent opponents have been members of the Kennedy family, whose compound in Hyannis Port looks out on the proposed site. Senator Edward M. Kennedy called the project a special-interest giveaway and fought it until just before his death in August.

Both Sides Push Arguments as Decision Nears on Cape Wind - NYTimes.com

Just a reminder of what this is all about:

Participants in a conference on climate change are demanding 300 billion US dollars in annual compensation from wealthy countries

Express.co.uk - Campaigners call for climate court

If you believe in global warming, these are the nutballs you associate with:

the Green Screen was a finalist in this year's "Project Greenway" competition conducted by the Columbia University Graduate School of Architecture.

That means some of your tax dollars funded this crap.



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I knew it, belief in global warming is a mental disorder. Of course, all you have to do is look at the pic in the previous post to know that.

Psychiatry Congress-Global warming fears seen in obsessive compulsive disorder patients| Voxy.co.nz
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Here's an example of a typical "scientific" article. It complains about people who refuse to believe the "science" behind global warming. But it's also the perfect article, because in the piece, they use this picture:



Problem? It's fake. Just like the science. This is the kind of junk that ends up in schools being shown to impressionable little kids, or college students........same thing.

ABC News Watch: Fake photo used in Science article

Climate Change and the Integrity of Science -- Gleick et al. 328 (5979): 689 -- Science

On top of that, the oceans are still COOLING.

Recent Variations In Upper Ocean Heat Content – Information From Phil Klotzbach Climate Science: Roger Pielke Sr.
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For 4 years straight members of the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact.

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Like this IPCC scientist?

Statement of
DR. JOHN T. EVERETT Joint Hearing on “EPA's Role in Protecting Ocean Health”


He says: CO2 is not a pollutant or contaminant and the oceans are not getting acidified by global warming.

How can that be? Well, that list of IPCC scientists is meant to get simple minded people to believe that MMGW is real and overwhelming. The truth is, if you're a skeptic and worked on the report, or gathered data for someone else, or just fetched coffee, you were listed on the final report.

Why? Because the IPCC is political, not scientific in nature.

So anyone making a statement such as: the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact. Is just wrong and uninformed.
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Like this IPCC scientist?

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He says: CO2 is not a pollutant or contaminant and the oceans are not getting acidified by global warming.

How can that be? Well, that list of IPCC scientists is meant to get simple minded people to believe that MMGW is real and overwhelming. The truth is, if you're a skeptic and worked on the report, or gathered data for someone else, or just fetched coffee, you were listed on the final report.

Why? Because the IPCC is political, not scientific in nature.

So anyone making a statement such as: the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact. Is just wrong and uninformed.
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United Nations scientist from S Africa denounces global warming and the IPCC. Just more of that unanimous, over-whelming consensus.

The IPCC’s carcass by Will Alexander, S. African UN Scientist An Honest Climate Debate

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For 4 years straight members of the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact.

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Here's one of the lead IPCC authors in testimony to congress. Basically, he says that all these windmills, biofuels, biomass and solar panels will have no effect on climate. Neither will new MPG standards (just signed today by Obama). The only thing that will work, at a small scale, is nuclear power plants on a large scale implementation. Nobody here has the stomach for that.

Plus, all those fancy high priced climate models are wrong. Shocker.

From my analysis, the actions being considered to “stop global warming” will
have an imperceptible impact on whatever the climate will do, while making
energy more expensive, and thus have a negative impact on the economy as a
whole. We have found that climate models and popular surface temperature
data sets overstate the changes in the real atmosphere and that actual changes
are not alarming. And, if the Congress deems it necessary to reduce CO2
emissions, the single most effective way to do so by a small, but at least
detectable, amount is through the massive implementation of a nuclear power
program. Other currently available alternatives simply cannot produce enough
energy to be significantly noticed
at a price and geographic scale that is
affordable.


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More and more scientists are coming forward disputing this MMGW nonsense. What took them so long?

Often, they refused to be quoted at all, saying they feared for their funding, or they feared other recriminations from climate scientists in the doomsayer camp.

Jeff Kuhn, a rising star at the University of Hawaii’s Institute for Astronomy, is one of the most recent scientists to go public, revealing in press releases this month that solar scientists worldwide are on a mission to show that the Sun drives Earth’s climate. “As a scientist who knows the data, I simply can’t accept [the claim that man plays a dominant role in Earth’s climate],” he states.

When bodies such the IPCC dismiss solar science’s contribution to understanding Earth’s climate out of hand, solar scientists no longer sit on their hands. Danish scientist Henrik Svensmark of the Danish National Space Institute stated that the IPCC was “probably totally wrong” to dismiss the significance of the sun, which in 2009 would likely have the most spotless days in a century. As for claims from the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers who argue that periods of extreme heat or cold were regional in scope, not global, Svensmark cites the Medieval Warm Period......

Did you catch that? The IPCC, the source of all this nonsense that everyone cites as the unanimous experts, DISMISSED THE SUN AS CONTRIBUTOR TO CLIMATE!!!!

Ya, I'll trust the U.N. and their reports. LOL!!

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It's getting harder and harder for the leftist alarmists to ignore facts.

CO2 is proven not to cause global warming.

The Hockey Schtick: New Miskolczi Paper: CO2 not cause of Global Warming
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And again.......

Make sure you enlarge this to read reality.



C3: 2010 Antarctica Peer-Reviewed Research: Ice Core Data Confirms Medieval Period Warmer Than Present
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Once again, more proof that names listed as "elite" scientists that "unanimously" agree that man made global warming is real, is a lie. Maybe Wikipedia isn't a good source after all?

Of course it isn't!! Even high school kids know it now.

"I'm sure the majority (but not all) of my IPCC colleagues cringe when I say this, but I see neither the developing catastrophe nor the smoking gun proving that human activity is to blame for most of the warming we see."

Global warming: Interview with John Christy--Models, sensitivity, the PNAS paper and more

BTW, the Antarctic ice is pretty big and thick yet.

Antarctic sea ice peaks at third highest in the satellite record | Watts Up With That?

Here's a good question:

'Climategate', 'Amazongate': when will the truth be told? - Telegraph
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This guy is a leftist environmentalist that admits Man-Made global warming is a scam and simply a money machine for guilt ridden elites.

These money hungry hoaxsters are all over the place, including the U.N. and NOAA. Not to mention Hadley or Penn State.

YouTube- Unlikely Skeptic: A Liberal Environmentalist challenges Global Warming Theory
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Just in case you fell for the latest scam report that global warming is "undeniable", let's look at who wrote the AP column.

AP Cites Discredited NOAA Bureaucrat to Push Global Warming Alarmism Report | NewsBusters.org

Oh ya, here's your beloved U.N. saving the planet....again. If you insist on believing the U.N. on global warming and want to have all of us jump into the rabbit hole on that hoax, then you must follow the recommendations as well.

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Here's my helpful hint of the day.

Did you ever hear the lie that 97% of all climatologists agree that man made global warming is real and harmful?

This lie comes from articles like this:

Visually depicting the disconnect between climate scientists, media and the public

The truth? This lie has spread like a virus. It's source is this study:

In our survey,the most specialized and knowledgeable respondents (with regard to climate change) are those who listed climate science as their area of expertise and who
also have published more than 50% of their recent peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change (79 individuals in total). Of these specialists, 96.2% (76 of 79) answered “risen” to question 1 and 97.4% (75 of 77) answered yes to question 2.


http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf

So in the world of Global Warming "science", 70 some odd anonymous people become a 97% unequivocal consensus.

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Excellent explanation of what went wrong with liberals and why they cling to this global warming nonsense.

politicized science played on liberal fears of progress: for Gore and his allies at the UN, only a global command-and-control economy that kept growth in check could stave off imminent catastrophe. The anti-progress mind-set was by then familiar ground for liberals.

Progressives Against Progress by Fred Siegel, City Journal Summer 2010

Liberals fear progress. We should give that a name, maybe progressiphobia. Hey, they're the ones putting "phobias" to everything else.
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If you want a source, go read the IPCC's (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) reports.
Worlds leading scientists indeed.

The United Nation's climate change organisation faces a warning over how it uses scientific facts in its influential reports, following the discovery of a series of embarrassing errors in its work.....The IPCC has been under scrutiny after it admitted making an error in its 2007 report, that stated Himalayan glaciers could melt to a fifth of current levels by 2035 – a statement that was wrong by over 300 years......statements were found to be based on information taken from reports by environmental lobby groups, magazine articles and student dissertations......A normal peer review will not have time to do this, so how can we double and triple check the reference chain of any particular statement?........

I thought that was their claim to be above reproach, the "peer review" of the "science". I guess like minded money chasing psuedo-scientists agreeing with each other is good enough to be called "peer reviewed". Then it gets posted in Wikipedia and it becomes settled science.

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Left wing hate speech is proven to be dangerous. Al Gores "movie of lies" pushes a left winger over the edge. Lucky nobody was killed.

Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”

Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans.”


One down...............

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The worlds most elite scientists (lol) are on a PR campaign to establish credibility (too late). Those darn right wingers made them look stupid and biased somehow.

Yet when it comes to substance, the group is brimful of alarmist Kool-Aid, saying humanity "very likely" is to blame for climate change. Until the IPCC takes that as a hypothesis to be evaluated objectively via the uncorrupted scientific method -- not as the foregone conclusion its "science" must support -- real reform won't occur.

Maybe one thing that would help is if they would stop lying about their "peer review" process. Everyone knows that like minded zealots agreeing with each other is not the same as peer review.

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For 4 years straight members of the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact.

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nothing surprised me more than discovering how widely the nature of the IPCC is misunderstood. It is invariably portrayed as a body representing the top scientists in the world, objectively weighing the complex forces that shape Earth's climate. In reality, it's nothing of the kind........The IPCC was, from the start, essentially a political pressure group, producing evidence to support the view that global warming was the most serious crisis facing the planet. This guided the selection of all the key scientists chosen to compile the IPCC's findings

geez, really?

A cunning bid to shore up the ruins of the IPCC - Telegraph

There has never been a consensus that man is to blame for global warming among the experts at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

That's not what the Al Gore (still) says. What's up with that? Ugh, that guy was almost President!

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Aw geez, more science:

IPCC'S MODELS UNDERSTATE THE EFFECTS OF NATURAL CAUSES AND OVERSTATES THE HUMAN CAUSED EFFECTS IN CLIMATE CHANGE.

C3: What The Real Data Indicates: Length of Arctic Melt Season Shows No Global Warming Trend

Typical green nonsense, cut down trees, dislocate farmers, put up windmills.

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For all the junior scientists out there.......

Carbon Heat Trapping: Merely a Bit Player in Global Warming-Richard J. Petschauer, Senior Member IEEE

Aw geez, the ocean temps are cooling or steady.

Recent energy balance of Earth-R. S. Knox and D. H. Douglass

Never seen Al Gore or any hollywood numbskulls write anything quite this thorough. Have you? Hard to dispute real science eh?

Reading science isn't as fun as playing chicken little is it?
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I want to personally thank all the Liberal/Progressive environmental zealots.

Your plan is working perfectly:

New standards for commercial and industrial boilers: up to 798,250 jobs at risk;

The revised National Ambient Air Quality Standard for ozone: severe restrictions on job creation and business expansion in hundreds of counties nationwide.

New standards for Portland Cement plants: up to 18 cement plants at risk of shutting down, threatening nearly 1,800 direct jobs and 9,000 indirect jobs;

The Endangerment Finding/Tailoring Rules for Greenhouse Gas Emissions: higher energy costs; jobs moving overseas; severe economic impacts on the poor, the elderly, minorities, and those on fixed incomes; 6.1 million sources subject to EPA control and regulation;


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Are you sure about this warming thingy?

Coldest winter in 1,000 years on its way - RT

NZ - Snow hits farmers big time

Big Oil must of written these stories, coached by Fox news.
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