Latest Global Warming news - Page 17

kmfarm · 01-13-2010, 05:12 PM

It's getting hard to keep up with this stuff. But I will.

Global Warming is all your (fat,greedy,Americans) fault. There's a purpose to this message.

US cult of greed is now a global environmental threat | Environment | The Guardian

Coldest winter in over a hundred years in Mexico.

The coldest winter in 124 years

It's also still really cold in India.

Death toll tops 300 as cold wave intensifies in India : Nature Environment

Another myth debunked.

Antarctic sea water shows 'no sign' of warming | The Australian

Op-ed from Detroit says "keep the debate going". Some folks understand that the "consensus" is a lie.

Editorial: Don't stifle global warming debate | detnews.com | The Detroit News

And finally another article debunking the "green jobs" fantasy.

Carroll: Obama's green jobs fantasy - The Denver Post

kmfarm · 01-14-2010, 05:32 PM

Awesome! Stimulus money is going to one of the climategate fraudsters. And here I thought stimulus money was for "shovel ready" jobs to get americans back to work. Silly me.

Economic Stimulus Funds Went to Climategate Scientist

Very good letter to the editor from a geologist.

It is simply not logical that controlling a single (and miniscule, by volume) variable such as atmospheric carbon dioxide will allow us to bend the entire global climate to our will.

Ohio.com - Letters to the editor - Jan. 13

Here's todays comic relief:

Turning vegetarian to save the planet may actually have the opposite effect. Cow farts will be replaced with increased human farts. Same planetary destruction. So just keep on eating dead cow, it's not any worse for the planet after all.

Will Vegetarian Humans One Day 'Emit' More Carbon Dioxide & Methane Than Cows? : TreeHugger

This National Geographic has "jumped the shark" some time ago, but this is over the top.

Global Warming Indigestion May Kill Gorillas, Monkeys

kmfarm · 01-16-2010, 07:51 AM

Here's the latest hollywood nut. He believes the failure at Copenhagen is what caused the earthquake in Haiti! These are the global warming heros folks. These people drive legislation. These people influence your political reps.

BTW, He also thinks Hugo Chavez is awesome!

YouTube- GRITtv: Danny Glover and Marie St. Cyr on Haiti

kmfarm · 01-16-2010, 09:48 AM

On top of the Job Killing Cap and Trade Bill the feds are working on, how many of you knew that Doyle has his own job killing global warming bill?

That's right, Doyle and the Democrats don't think Obama and the EPA are doing enough. He's got his own brand of lunacy.

Here's a few details:

It will be illegal to sell a radio with an illuminated clock that draws more than 4 watts of electricity.

It will be illegal to sell a television set that draws more than 3 watts on standby.

Cars with low emissions will receive preferred parking on Wisconsin streets and in local government lots under a model-ordinance developed by state officials. So the State will buy electric cars with you tax money, pat themselves on the back, and get the primo parking spots all over the State.

In 20 years, no new home or commercial building should draw power from the electric grid, but should generate its own from renewable sources. State government officials (DNR) will track whether private residences and facilities are using only the amount of energy they generate on-site. Think a machine shop can run welders and lathes on windmill and solar panel power? How about a new manufacturing plant? Why would anyone build a new business with these ridiculous new rules?

A “Climate Change Coordinating Council” will create global warming “training programs” for students and teachers from kindergarten through graduate school. In other words, government officials can use the education system to scare people, from small children to young adults, into doing what government wants, using global warming as the pretext.

Wisconsin will adopt the restrictive California vehicle emissions standards, piling new expense on the purchase of a car in this state. At least $1000

It will be illegal to allow a diesel engine to idle for more than five minutes unless it's below 10 degrees.

On top of all that, this bill greatly increases the size and scope of the DNR. That's right, the agency that can't even count deer is going to control and regulate global temperatures via fees, taxes and mandates. So the only jobs I see being created, as Doyle touts, are in the DNR.

Imagine being up north on a snowmobile ride. You and your pals stop at a local pub for a soda and burger. After a while, you go outside, start you sleds and talk about where to go next or whatever. Your friendly DNR agent will be watching to make sure you aren't idling more than 5 minutes. If you do, you get a fine. Same thing in the summer with your boat.

Here's a letter from job producers to government job killers denouncing the bill.

http://www.wispolitics.com/1006/091203GWTF_letter.pdf

I have a copy of this bill and I'll be bringing more info forward. If I can stand to type between puking.

kmfarm · 01-17-2010, 01:40 PM

Geez, the Himalayan glaciers won't melt away after all.

Read this article to see how the IPCC comes up with their "science". Your schools have been driven by this kind of junk science for decades. Now a whole generation believes in this drivel.

Two years ago the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a benchmark report that was claimed to incorporate the latest and most detailed research into the impact of global warming. A central claim was the world's glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035............Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was "speculation" and was not supported by any formal research. If confirmed it would be one of the most serious failures yet seen in climate research. The IPCC was set up precisely to ensure that world leaders had the best possible scientific advice on climate change.............When finally published, the IPCC report did give its source as the WWF study but went further, suggesting the likelihood of the glaciers melting was "very high". The IPCC defines this as having a probability of greater than 90%.

Wonder if this factoid will make it into Wikipedia's global warming page.

Wonder if Al Gore will update his presentations.

Wonder if school textbooks will be re-written.

Wonder if the Governor, the DNR or the stupid global warming task force seen this.

World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown - Times Online

kmfarm · 01-18-2010, 12:47 PM

There's no real good future for electric cars. So says................Toyota?

Toyota Executive Sees Limits to Electric Cars - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com

Despite Qualms, Toyota Will Bring Plug-In Hybrid to Market - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com

So then why would car manufacturers continue to design, develop, manufacture, market and expand the electric car market?

Simple, as long as governments are ran by radical zealots, there's a virtual gaurantee that your cars will sell. Either by direct government purchase, heavy credits and subsidies, or by artificially raising gas prices to make these boat anchors appealing.

Just wait until you have to pay not only to replace you battery (before you expected), but also pay to have it disposed of. We're talking thousands of dollars.

I'll also predict, on the record, that your insurance will also skyrocket. Not just because of the cost of the car, but over time, the cost of cleaning up environmental spills after batteries leak after car accidents. This will happen after millions of these junkers are finally on the road and some environmental wacko, probably a DNR empolyee, discovers all the damage done by these accidents. Then there'll be a law passed that insurance will have to cover this. This is called a mandate. Your insurance will skyrocket to cover the cost of the white suited DNR mobsters (or companies approved by the DNR) to come out and clean up your mess. There'll also be a new mandate to have insurance cover the disposal of batteries after they die of natural causes. You can't expect the poor to pay after all. Have the greedy insurance companies pay.

I'll also predict, on the record, that thievery will escalate. The junkyards that hold these cars will have to be locked up like fort knox to keep the thieves out. There are many pounds of precious metals sitting in these cars. Once the black market opens up for this stuff (these metals are precious because of short supply), criminals will take command.

I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't been yet.

**MrKhay** · 01-18-2010, 08:10 PM

Al Gore=Chicken Little

(an overpaid chicken little).

**MrKhay** · 01-18-2010, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmfarm

Here's the latest hollywood nut. He believes the failure at Copenhagen is what caused the earthquake in Haiti! These are the global warming heros folks. These people drive legislation. These people influence your political reps.

BTW, He also thinks Hugo Chavez is awesome!

YouTube- GRITtv: Danny Glover and Marie St. Cyr on Haiti

...and HE VOTES!

kmfarm · 01-21-2010, 06:29 AM

IPCC fraudster Micheal Mann getting millions of your (borrowed) tax dollars.

Michael Mann Received Stimulus Money - WSJ.com

The IPCC says: "Sorry about all that phoney glacier stuff. We didn't realize we would be checked".

U.N. climate chiefs apologize for glacier error - CNN.com

But the libs in Seattle are saying: "Ah, that was just a typo. They just gotta be more careful".

Business & Technology | UN climate report riddled with errors on glaciers | Seattle Times Newspaper

More evidence that temperature stations are cherry picked.

In the 1970s, nearly 600 Canadian weather stations fed surface temperature readings into a global database assembled by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Today, NOAA only collects data from 35 stations across Canada.

Scientists using selective temperature data, skeptics say

More African scare tactics are de-bunked. Whenever someone uses Africa as part of their global warming scare, ignore them. It's a scare tactic.

That the IPCC is citing non-peer-reviewed, non-scientific research from quasi governmental semi-independent sustainability advocacy organisations must say something about the dearth of scientific or empirical research.

Roger Pielke Jr.'s Blog: More Laundered Literature: A Guest Post by Ben Pile

kmfarm · 01-23-2010, 04:05 PM

Ever hear about this on the news? NASA says that there is no evidence of man-made global warming. This is from a 2007 memo.

The Strata-Sphere Stunning: NASA GISS Admits No Evidence of AGW In The US, Won’t Be For Decades!

Dodgy GISS temperature records exposed: the US Climategate? – Telegraph Blogs

James Hansen: Would you buy a used temperature data set from THIS man? – Telegraph Blogs

The evidence that our government is involved in the lie (known as MMGW) is coming to light on a daily basis. Probably Bush's fault.

American Thinker: Climategate: CRU Was But the Tip of the Iceberg

In the image below, the blue line is all the "raw data". The red line is after it's "tweaked" by government scientists (alarmists).

Wonder if Doyle (your governor) has seen this. Probably not. It's not on Wikipedia yet. He's still moving full speed ahead to raise gas and electric costs to "save the planet". You know, create 15,000 "green jobs" (mostly in the DNR) while destroying 45,000 current jobs.

Typical Liberal/Progressive plan.

kmfarm · 01-24-2010, 08:05 AM

Here's more proof that the IPCC is a bogus political body. The guy behind the glacier lies admits it.

The scientist behind the bogus claim in a Nobel Prize-winning UN report that Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2035 last night admitted it was included purely to put political pressure on world leaders.

Dr Murari Lal also said he was well aware the statement, in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), did not rest on peer-reviewed scientific research. (Ed Begley, where are you?)

In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, Dr Lal, the co-ordinating lead author of the report’s chapter on Asia, said: ‘It related to several countries in this region and their water sources. We thought that if we can highlight it, it will impact policy-makers and politicians and encourage them to take some concrete action.

Glacier scientists says he knew data had not been verified | Mail Online

Nah, global warming isn't politcal. Wikipedia says it's real.

kmfarm · 01-25-2010, 11:47 AM

IPCC lied about African agriculture in it's report.

The IPCC scandal: the African data was sexed up, too | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog

The IPCC lied about the rain forest too? Hmmmmmmm.

EU Referendum: And now for Amazongate

Where does the IPCC get all it's lies? Well the World Wildlife Fund of course. Environmental alarmists, not scientists. At least they only had to get info from one place. Don't want to overwork anyone that's saving the planet.

EU Referendum: Not one, but two ... and counting

kmfarm · 01-26-2010, 08:45 AM

These people need to make up their minds. Now the ozone hole is good! Time to start punching old refrigerators and air conditioners.

Now climate-change scientists say ozone hole stops global warming - Scotsman.com News

The real consensus that's being talked about now, is the IPCC being a fraudulent body that needs to be disbanded.

Hall of Record: Pachauri Only Part Of The Problem

Three Scientists Criticize IPCC, Pachauri's Leadership : ScienceInsider

More evidence that the IPCC used wacky environmental extremists for their "data" as opposed to real tried and true science. Those bonehead moves end up filtering all the way to driving government policies and school curriculums. Not to mention, creating a bunch of new liberal industries of professional protesters, lawyers, activists and carbon trade scammers (Al Gore).

The WWF and the EPA Endangerment Finding Climate Audit

kmfarm · 01-30-2010, 08:38 AM

It's amazing what you learn when you actually study the climate. This is known as real science.

It's The Water Vapor, Stupid! | The Resilient Earth

We will soon find out how serious all these partying world leaders were at Copenhagen. Want to know what I think? I think you already know.

Copenhagen's moment of truth - latimes.com

Now the SEC (government) wants companies to disclose the effects of climate change on their companies. I'm sure this won't have any effect on stock prices. I'm sure everyone will be honest. I'm sure the government will have clear and concise guidelines for everyone to follow. I'm sure this is based on reality.

"Today's vote is a clarion call about the vast risks and opportunities climate change poses for US companies and the urgency for integrating them into investment decision making," said Ceres president Mindy Lubber, whose group helped organize the investor petition. "The business risks of climate change cannot be ignored. With this guidance investors can make more sound decisions based on better information - and businesses will have a level-playing field with clear standards and expectations for disclosure."

Gotta love busy-body know nothing extremists in the government.

Post Carbon: SEC tells companies to disclose climate risks - Steven Mufson

kmfarm · 01-30-2010, 01:54 PM

Typical windmill story. These things are going to save the world?

KSTP TV - Minneapolis and St. Paul - Cold keeps Minn. wind turbines from spinning

So now they have to heat the fluid. What kind of heat? I'll bet some kind of "fossil fuel". So now these windmills have their very own carbon footprint contributing to global warming.

Notice how they just glossed over the cost of these things? $300,000 each to supply electricity to 35 homes. I don't believe that number, but let's give it to them. $300,000 does not include the cost of all the future repairs and maintenance. And there's plenty. But that cost equals almost $8600 per home, under optimum conditions, plus the cost of maintenance and the cost of heating the fluid all winter. Not to mention, under normal conditions, they run only about half the time.

And they call this "green technology". I call it backwards.

You wanna buy one for your backyard, go ahead. But I don't want to pay taxes to pay for these stupid things just so we can feel better about using electricity.

kmfarm · 01-31-2010, 12:41 PM

Geez, more Wikipedia referances shot down in regard to global warming and the politcal body known as the IPCC.

Peer reviewed sound science from the worlds leading scientists indeed.

UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article - Telegraph

However, it can be revealed that one of the sources quoted was a feature article published in a popular magazine for climbers which was based on anecdotal evidence from mountaineers about the changes they were witnessing on the mountainsides around them.

The other was a dissertation written by a geography student, studying for the equivalent of a master's degree, at the University of Berne in Switzerland that quoted interviews with mountain guides in the Alps.

The revelations, uncovered by The Sunday Telegraph, have raised fresh questions about the quality of the information contained in the report, which was published in 2007.

But hey, full steam ahead for Obama and Doyle. Gotta tax the living daylights out of all of us to save the planet. Because if we don't.................................

**MrKhay** · 01-31-2010, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmfarm

Geez, more Wikipedia referances shot down in regard to global warming and the politcal body known as the IPCC.

Of course, we all know that the entries found on Wikipedia can be edited. Anyone with a Wiki account can make up their own story, and call it factual. Sort of like getting your news from The Comedy Channel.

kmfarm · 01-31-2010, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrKhay

Of course, we all know that the entries found on Wikipedia can be edited. Anyone with a Wiki account can make up their own story, and call it factual. Sort of like getting your news from The Comedy Channel.

Not quite correct buddy. Some people still actually quote Wikipedia as factual. As evidenced in prior posts.

So as well as dismembering the global warming hoax, I also have to disprove the myth of Wikipedia.

That's easy too.

kmfarm · 02-03-2010, 02:23 PM

The IPCC used student papers as sources? Yep. Sound science from the U.N again.

IPCC cited multiple Master’s Students in AR4, some unpublished ClimateQuotes.com

IPCC fraudster Micheal Mann was investigated by Penn State. The conclusion? Keep looking, somethings not right. They will have to tap dance a little, but this isn't good for him or the university.

Penn State Live - Inquiry into climate scientist moves to next phase

Aw geez, original data from New Zealand is missing. Imagine that.

Ever see a "paper shredding party"?

TBR.cc: BREAKING NEWS: NIWA reveals NZ original climate data missing

kmfarm · 02-04-2010, 06:40 AM

Good article explaining how Cap and Trade has nothing to do with controlling the climate. It's only a revenue generator.

You can feverishly construct all the wind towers and solar plants you like to replace that one coal fired plant. You’ll need 700 of them just to replace that one coal fired plant, and even then. you’ll only get one fifth of the power because that’s the best efficiency rate they operate at. Renewable power currently supplies only 1.6% of all consumed power in the U.S. There are currently 35,000 wind powers in the U.S. The total amount of power they supply amounts to 64 Billion KWH, the same amount of power being produced from only four of those large coal fired plants over a whole year. Why I mention this is that for every four of these large coal fired plants that do close down because of this Legislation, you will need to double the number of those wind towers. The time needed to construct that many towers and the cost for all of them would be prohibitive.

Mislead (Again) On Cap And Trade PA Pundits – International

As an aside, at a time when we're trying to shut down coal fired plants, the Chinese are building 500 of them in the next year.

So when you hear the Doyle using the Chinese as a scare tactic to pass his global warming bill, remember that the Chinese are doing the "all of the above" program. They're growing and have no intention of cutting their own throats over an imaginary crisis.

kmfarm · 02-05-2010, 12:32 PM

Leave it to the L.A. times to restart the panic with the same old talking points. The best part is, they actually use the IPCC as a credible source. THAT'S HILARIOUS!

Global emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases rise every year, and within decades are expected to hit a worrisome atmospheric concentration threshold of 450 parts per million........Our children would live in a world of mass migrations, wars and conflicts fueled by scarce water supplies, infrastructure destruction as rising sea levels swallow coastlines, extreme weather events, wildfires and increased poverty and disease......changes to the physical geography of the planet become probable: land masses would vanish; ecosystems would collapse. Human civilization would change, and not for the better....... It's foolish to say we can't afford to pass a climate bill during a recession. We can't afford not to.

Backing down on climate change - latimes.com

Speaking of the IPCC, the Indian government, that's the country where the head of the IPCC comes from, says the IPCC is so unreliable that they are forming their own body to look at global warming.

India forms new climate change body - Telegraph

And even more bad news for the IPCC. The Netherlands says, "Hey! More than half our country is not below sea level! GET A CLUE!"

Must have been from one of those scientific students.

Netherlands adds to UN climate report controversy

kmfarm · 02-11-2010, 07:02 AM

Sooooooooo predictable.

D.C. Snowstorm: How Global Warming Makes Blizzards Worse - Yahoo! News

MSNBC, owned by GE, says the storms are "evidence" of climate change. GE stands to make trillions of dollars worldwide with the advancement of "green" tech.

Big oil is not where the money is. It's big green.

YouTube- Brewer Ignores MSNBC's Meteorologist & Declares DC Blizzard Result of Global Warming

But only just a couple years ago, all the political experts where saying that lack of snow was evidence of global warming. Of course only Democrats look to a KKK grand wizard as a political leader. I guess that's part of that Liberal compassion I keep hearing about.

Breitbart.tv Flashback Clips: Snow Levels Cause Democrats to Demand Urgent Action

**MrKhay** · 02-12-2010, 12:36 AM

The green kooks claim that there is more moisture in the atmosphere because of global warming. Extra moisture means extra snow...because the air is cold, and the moisture in the atmosphere froze, and fell to the ground as snow.

Moisture is moisture, no matter what the temperature.

I have to ask...why was last summer so dry? Maybe global warming doesn't work in the summer.

kmfarm · 02-12-2010, 06:51 AM

NY Times says the snowstorms are evidence of global warming. Shocker.

Climate-Change Debate Is Heating Up in Deep Freeze - NYTimes.com

In the meantime, Dallas is setting records.

Dallas / Fort Worth Weather - cbs11tv.com

Charles Krauthammer hits a home run again. Content warning: FOX NEWS VIDEO, GET YOUR KIDS AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER SCREEN!!!!!!!!!

RealClearPolitics - Video - "Special Report" Panel On Record Snow Fall And Global Warming

kmfarm · 02-14-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keith

For 4 years straight members of the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact.

What happened? Is this just still ad nauseam partisan bickering?

Unequivocal fact indeed.

“The temperature records cannot be relied on as indicators of global change,” said John Christy, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, a former lead author on the IPCC.

John Christy is one of the "elite" guys that was part of the "unanimous" agreement that was in the (non-scientific IPCC) Wikipedia list that was posted.

World may not be warming, say scientists - Times Online

Climategate U-turn: Astonishment as scientist at centre of global warming email row admits data not well organised | Mail Online

Climate scientists admit fresh error over data on rising sea levels | Environment | The Observer