Read it, study it, understand it and determine on your own if it has merit.
Now take this article to your Phd friend/mentor and let him/her do the same. Then ask for opinion from that same person.
If you get responses like, "they're just deniers", or "who are these people", or anything else that doesn't actually pertain to the actual science contained, that's a clue of bias.
If that person says, "interesting", "I didn't realize", or "that's proof of more debate needed", then ask why Congress and the President are moving full steam ahead on a climate bill that takes money out of everyone's pocket when Global Warming is only a theory with no basis in fact outside flawed computer models?
There is no scientific evidence of MMGW outside these flawed computer models. That is a fact. The true "deniers" are the ones who base their views on these models and not true science.
Why was Al Gore (proven to be a fraud) used as an "expert" in congressional hearings to shape the climate bill?
Take the challange seriously. Your generation is the one that will be paying the majority of the future bills for these government money grabs.
If you have time, go back to the start of this thread and read any of the many articles disputing MMGW.
When real science is used, not science funded by governments with the end result already determined, there is no choice but to dispute MMGW. People in general have been so brainwashed on this junk science that they think they can go outside on any given day and "feel" that it's warmer. So they say, yep, Global Warming is real and we better do something about it before all the polar bears go "ploosh".
I await the results of the challenge.
BTW Lilly, I'm still waiting on a response to this challenge. This is from a few months ago.
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Letterman definitely was impressed as well.. and he's no dummy either.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmfarm
Lots of folks agree with you. But to me, confidently repeating lies doesn't make him smart, it makes him a politician IMNSHO. If he were actually smart, he wouldn't keep avoiding one on one debates with scientists who want to make him back up his statements with some science instead of just speaking in front of friendly audiences.
I must say though, I didn't see the show. I don't watch Alfred E Newman. So my comments are based on his past speeches.
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Surely it was a good way to die, in the place of someone else, someone I loved. Noble, even. That ought to count for something.
Bella Swan, Twilight, Preface, p.1
When life offers you a dream so far beyond any of your expectations, it’s not reasonable to grieve when it comes to an end.
Bella Swan, Twilight, Preface, p.1
For anyone who insists on government information for their view on global warming, here's a government website disputing MMGW.
Partial quote:
It has been thought that an increase in carbon dioxide will lead to global warming. While carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been increasing over the past 100 years, there is no evidence that it is causing an increase in global temperatures.
The largest differences in the satellite temperature data were not from any man-made activity, but from natural phenomena such as large volcanic eruptions from Mt. Pinatubo, and from El Nińo.
Interesting...but does it state somewhere that it was a 'political' reason the page was pulled? Just really wondering.
Otherwise there could be many reasons why a page was pulled down, broken link? Wrong info on it? The webmaster wanted a change of look? Wasn't correct info for an educational site? The reasons go on and not necessary IMHO has to do with politics...
Original government page is still down. Whatcha think now PK?
Imaging the uproar if a government page was pulled during the Bush administration.
Hmmmmmmmm
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Original government page is still down. Whatcha think now PK?
Oh I don't know...maybe 'they' have spies on the bubbler here reading all your posts and then they go out and do things to bug you so you have things to wonder about. LOL
Or could it be just a 4 year old site they decided to take down to update?
or...oh heck, there can be lots of reasons, maybe you could write and ask them. And then when they take the man power to write you back you can complain they are using tax payers $$ to pay people to answer questions.
Think of all the new material you could get from it all.
__________________ If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.
Oh I don't know...maybe 'they' have spies on the bubbler here reading all your posts and then they go out and do things to bug you so you have things to wonder about. LOL
Or could it be just a 4 year old site they decided to take down to update?
or...oh heck, there can be lots of reasons, maybe you could write and ask them. And then when they take the man power to write you back you can complain they are using tax payers $$ to pay people to answer questions.
Think of all the new material you could get from it all.
That's what I thought. roflmao
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Alarming predictions that climate change will lead to the extinction of hundreds of species may be exaggerated, according to Oxford scientists. The International Union for the Conservation of Nature agrees.
Here's what your government wants you to do to save the world. Live like it's 1875
Partial quote:
Waxman-Markey's goal is just slightly more than 1 billion tons of greenhouse-gas emissions in 2050. The last time this nation had that small an amount was 1910, when there were only 92 million Americans, 328 million fewer than the 420 million projected for 2050. To meet the 83 percent reduction target in a nation of 420 million, per capita carbon-dioxide emissions would have to be no more than 2.4 tons per person, which is one quarter the per capita emissions of 1910, a level probably last seen when the population was 45 million—in 1875.
we've seen it in times gone by when the carbon dioxide content was 100 times the current content. We didn't have runaway global warming, we actually had glaciation."
The Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Stanislas Kamanzi, from Rwanda (that's Africa), has some interesting thoughts.
Partial quote.
We have been witnessing a lot of disturbances in our usual weather trends with delays in rainfall seasons or sometime a situation where there is too much rain in a very short period or lengthy droughts.
End quote.
So, too much rain? Lengthy droughts? Which is it? Read the rest of the article, it's about money.
And the latest nutjobs. Pee on compost to save the planet. Someone needs to tell the Africans that what they've been doing is good for the planet. Open sewage!
Good books, IMHO, with great reviews on Amazon despite the efforts of some partisans to bring the review scores down.
I've seen the authors of the last two on Book TV. Their arguments are cogent, without being hateful or vindictive or arrogant or sarcastic, and without beating a dead horse ad nauseum.
For 4 years straight members of the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact.
Whatever the reason for it, it makes sense to me to undertake efforts to mitigate climate change...before it is too late...rather than just rant about how wrong everyone is.
For 4 years straight members of the world's most elite scientific body have agreed unanimously that global warming is a fact. This last year they stated that global warming is an unequivocal fact.
Regards,
Keith
Ugh, just who are these "members"? Got some names? Every article and fact I've put forth has had names and credentials with them. You bring "elite scientfic body"?
Lemme guess, IPCC. ROFLMAO
Good comeback.
__________________ There is precedent for the mainstream media being megaphones for Democratic-manufactured hysteria. George Will
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will
Ugh, just who are these "members"? Got some names? Every article and fact I've put forth has had names and credentials with them. You bring "elite scientfic body"?
Just as I thought, the IPCC (United Nations). These are the "elites"? The group that hides data, changes data, lies about data, manipulates data and makes up "facts"? The most uncredible "scientific" body in the world?
O.K. I'll just keep bringing up facts that dispute that political body with independant scientfic evidence.
Let's read another bogus global warming scare story. The headline:
But in the article is this: Chip Fletcher, a University of Hawaii geology professor, says scientists in Hawaii haven't yet observed an accelerated rate of sea level rise due to global warming.
But it's easy to lose that one sentence is a scare piece that's a couple dozen paragraphs long with words like "could", "might", "expected", "probably", "likely".
In other words, it's another baseless scare piece. I'm sure your school kids will know about it very soon. Besides the polar bear lie, now they'll think that Hawaii will disappear.
Just as I thought, the IPCC (United Nations). These are the "elites"? The group that hides data, changes data, lies about data, manipulates data and makes up "facts"? The most uncredible "scientific" body in the world?
O.K. I'll just keep bringing up facts that dispute that political body with independant scientfic evidence.
Let's read another bogus global warming scare story. The headline:
But in the article is this: Chip Fletcher, a University of Hawaii geology professor, says scientists in Hawaii haven't yet observed an accelerated rate of sea level rise due to global warming.
But it's easy to lose that one sentence is a scare piece that's a couple dozen paragraphs long with words like "could", "might", "expected", "probably", "likely".
In other words, it's another baseless scare piece. I'm sure your school kids will know about it very soon. Besides the polar bear lie, now they'll think that Hawaii will disappear.
UK, Australia, Ireland Hans Alexandersson Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute Sweden Richard Allan Environmental Systems Science Centre, University of Reading UK
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and Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada Frank Dentener European Commission Joint Research Centre; Institute of Environment and Sustainability Climate Change Unit EU Clara Deser
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Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research, University of Colorado at Boulder & Department of Geograpy and Quaternary Geology at Stockholm Sweden, USA David Easterling
School of Oceanography, University of Washington USA Seita Emori National Institute for Environmental Studies and Frontier Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology Japan David Etheridge
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Canada Dominik Fleitmann Institute of Geological Sciences, Uniersity of Bern Switzerland, Germany James Rodger Fleming Colby College USA Ryan Fogt Polar Meteorology Group, Byrd Polar Research Center and Atmospheric Sciences Program, Department of geography, The Ohio State University USA Christopher Folland
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