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Old 09-25-2009, 01:35 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Re: Stimulus Facts:

The nitwit speaks again. No evidence, no facts, no numbers, no clue.

Biden on Stimulus: ‘Never Thought It Would Work This Well’ - Washington Wire - WSJ
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Re: Stimulus Facts:

More comments from John Stossel.

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OK, economic forecasters make mistakes. Fair enough. But neither the administration experts nor President Obama will acknowledge that their models and strategy are flawed. Instead, they spin the numbers and proclaim success, insisting that the plan is working even though unemployment is higher than they said it would be.

End quote.

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This wingnut still thinks the stimulus was too small. That's the problem, 800 billion dollars was too small. Nevermind that most of it is spent/used next year to bolster the campaigns of your favorite Democrats in the mid-term elections. Oh no, politics didn't have anything to do with the stimulus, it was all for saving the economy.

Still haven't spent 10% of this boondoggle. But let's approve more.

And this nut won the Noble Prize. What does that tell you about the Noble commision?

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These friggen Liberals and Obama passed an almost 1 trillion dollar "stimulus" bill in February. This was done, as I'm sure you remember, to "jolt" the economy back on track.

Let's not forget, this stimulus was supposed to be the solution. That's why it's so big, to match the size of the problem inherited by Bush.

Now, as if they're innocent bystanders, they're trying to come up with a plan to handle the poor ecomony and high unemployment.

AM I IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE?

Here's the first paragraph:

Confronted with big job losses and no sign the U.S. economy is ready to stand on its own, Democrats are working on a growing list of relief efforts, leaving for later how to pay for them, or whether even to bother.

End.

My Way News - Proposals to create jobs add up to second stimulus

These clowns are going to forever ruin this country. When are we going to get some grown-ups in there?
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I hate being right all the time.

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Hilarious!

Trillion dollars in stimulus, that had to be passed NOW or "America may not recover".

Now Obama is trying to figure out how to create jobs. I thought Biden said it was working better than expected.

Glad Obama is working so hard for us.

My Way News - Obama says he's looking at any way to create jobs

Alright folks, here's a real life example of how the Stimulus "creates" jobs:

A new 4 lane highway is being constructed in my area. It's a new Hwy 10 bypass around Stevens Point.

The project has been approved, funded and under construction for years.

When the stimulus was passed, the State applied for stimulus funds for the project. It was approved. So the State just doesn't spend money (that it budgeted to spend) out of the Highway fund. It plugs some holes in it's overbloated budget. Obama takes credit for "creating" all jobs associated with this project.

In reality, no new jobs were created.

This is what happens on many "shovel ready" projects. Nothing different actually happens, just a shift of funding.
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Even though I hate the term "saved or created" (because it's phoney), it's what everyone is using now.

The White House finally got some "official" numbers. They don't look to good to me. But Obama is sticking to the "working better than expected" line.

First hard stimulus data finds 30,000 jobs saved or created - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

How about 9 million dollars per job created or saved? That's what it's cost in New York. Government money at work.

JammieWearingFool-Stimulus Success in New York: $9 Million Spent Per Job

Half a Billion dollars for 54 jobs. And you want them to take over Health Care?

Awesome!
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Cool, more nail painters and hair dressers. That'll jolt the economy.

Partial quote:

Only 1 to 2 percent of beauty school graduates will be working in the field five years from graduation, said Bonnie Poole, treasurer of the Florida Cosmetology Association.

End quote.

Good Investment. I'm sure glad the governement is taking care of all these issues in such a well thought out, practical, fiscally responsible manner.

$2.3 million in federal stimulus money is going to pay for Tampa Bay area beauty school tuition - St. Petersburg Times

Hey, I've got an idea. Let's let these same clowns take over health care!
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New Hampshire Stimulus success.

221 private sector jobs this year. Only 116 were for "roads and bridges". Remember that mantra?

Stimulus has created 221 private sector jobs in New Hampshire : Now! Hampshire

So how does Wisconsin compare?

Well, Doyle's happy. After getting almost 2 billion of your dollars, he claims to have "saved or created" (whatever that means) 8284 jobs.

Here's the hitch. 6100 of those were for "teachers, cops and firefighters". You think all those positions were really in jeopardy? Nope. It was just payoffs to those unions. Especially the teachers union.

But for the sake of arguement, let's call all those legitimate "saves". The cost is 240,000 dollars per job.

Got any curiousity for where all the money went?

And the ultimate question. Did it help?

Report: Stimulus Created 8,200 Wisconsin Jobs - Madison News Story - WISC Madison

Wisconsin Unemployment Insurance Initial and Continued Claims Statistics
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Top economic advisor at the White House says the "jolt" from the stimulus already happened. Did ya feel it?

The Associated Press: Romer: Impact of stimulus will level off
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Some say the recession is over. Maybe, Maybe not. But at what cost and will it last? Actually, if the recession is over, why not just cancel the rest of the spending? Especially with results like these.

Cash for clunkers was probably the biggest force (along with giving away $8000 to buy houses) in showing economic growth last quarter. But that was a one shot deal and how much did it really cost?

Cash for Clunkers costs taxpayers $24,000 per car - Oct. 28, 2009

How much is being lost to crooks through fraud? Few billion here, few billion there......Remember, the government is trying to convince you that they'll pay for healthcare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse.

Stimulus dollars going to accused contractors

On top of all that, the number of jobs claimed to be "saved or created" is a lie as well.

Examples of government job creations:

A company working with the Federal Communications Commission reported that stimulus money paid for 4,231 jobs, when about 1,000 were produced.

A Georgia community college reported creating 280 jobs with recovery money, but none was created from stimulus spending.

A Florida child care center said its stimulus money saved 129 jobs but used the money on raises for existing employees.

Colorado-based Teletech Government Solutions on a $28.3 million contract with the Federal Communications Commission for creation of a call center, reported creating 4,231 jobs, although 3,000 of those workers were paid for five weeks or less.

The Toledo, Ohio-based Koring Group received two FCC contracts, again for call centers. It reported hiring 26 people for each contract, or a total of 52 jobs, but cited the same workers for both contracts. The jobs only lasted about two months.

Officials at East Central Technical College in Douglas, Ga., said they now know they shouldn't have claimed 280 stimulus jobs linked to more than $200,000 to buy trucks and trailers for commercial driving instruction, and a modular classroom and bathroom for a health education program.

The San Joaquin, Calif., Regional Rail Commission reported creating or saving 125 jobs as part of a stimulus project to lay railroad track. Because the project drew from two pools of money, the commission reported the jobs figure twice, bringing the total to 250 on the government report.

The Associated Press: Stimulus jobs overstated by thousands

Nice huh?

So now we're at about 25,000 jobs created with stimulus so far. The stimulus that was supposed to create 3.5 million.

We've got a ways to go.
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I love a good laugh in the morning. The White House can't tell the difference between a job "saved" or a job "created" after all their data scrubbing.

Partial quote:

the White House left it up to the people reporting the numbers to make that determination for themselves. “What we have to do is rely on the fact that our public officials are honest,” he said. “We don’t differentiate in the reporting between created and saved jobs.”

End quote.

Hilarious! I can't wait until independant analysis comes out on this. Bottom line, we've lost over 3 million jobs since Obama took office. That's reality, not hocus pocus creative accounting.

Saved or created? W.H. can't tell - Eamon Javers - POLITICO.com

More confirmation that Cash for Clunkers is a resounding flop. What a shocker!

UnionLeader.com - New Hampshire news, business and sports - Cash for whom? Clunkers program a lemon - Sunday, Nov. 1, 2009
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More fuzzy math by Obama.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Nothing that's being done is designed to help, it's designed to prolong the poor economy, start and expand social programs and make more people dependent on government (healthcare) thereby creating a permanent voting base.

The Associated Press: STIMULUS WATCH: Salary raise counted as saved job

Do stimulus jobs last? - Nov. 2, 2009
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Hilarious! I can't wait until independant analysis comes out on this.
Well this didn't take long. Wisconsin is just as screwed up as everyone else it seems.

Don't count on stimulus job tally - JSOnline

This is after Joe Biden and his crew "scrubbed" all the numbers. Can't wait for that healthcare now!
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This is just too easy.

Ohio admits that "saved" jobs numbers are a lie.

Not all jobs 'saved' by stimulus were in danger | Columbus Dispatch Politics

Texas used $1.75 billion in education funds to pay for a teacher pay raise.

Jobs created with stimulus funds lag in Texas | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News

Here's the best quote from California: This is not really a real number of people," CSU spokeswoman Clara Potes-Fellow said. "It's like a budget number.

Oh boy, there's a couple lessons in that statement. First, the admission that the "saved" jobs are (again) bogus.

Next, the admission that budget numbers are bogus. Geez, I wonder why California's in trouble? Not like Wisconsin is any different though.

Many California jobs 'saved' by stimulus funds weren't in jeopardy - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee

Where's Joe Biden? I need an explanation.

On top of all this, Obama today, said that in light of the bad unemployment numbers, he signed a bill into law today to "save and create" even more jobs. He said he's not going to rest until everyone who wants a job can get a job. That's why he signed the new law.

What law? Extending unemployment benefits. This will (Obama said) create or save more jobs.

I need more liberal lessons. Because I don't know how that works.
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Listen for yourself. Starts at about 1:45. Sorry, it's a FOX video. But I checked, it's not edited and I think it's real.

I guess if unemployment benefits strengthen the economy, we should just make them unlimited and raise the benefit to, oh I don't know, $1000 a week? Why not $10,000? "Economists" say it grows the economy, so why not just go for it?

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Here's a shocker. The New York Times thinks we should spend more stimulus money. With hundreds of billions left from the first one, we need to come up with more.

Love this quote:

There were good ideas floated at the White House meeting, including bolstered federal support for efforts to retrofit and weatherize homes and public buildings. There was also talk of using government money to establishing a so-called infrastructure bank that would issue bonds to help finance big construction projects.

End quote.

Aren't those the exact same ideas and projects that his first stimulus was supposed to pay for? I thought "green jobs" and "crumbling roads and bridges" were already what the stimulus was for.

More and more government spending. Where do you think that money comes from? Obamas secret stash? Money tree? Printing press? DING DING DING!

Jobless Recovery-NYT
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More evidence of manipulating numbers (also known as a lie) to make stimulus look good.

This is beginning to look like a pattern. lol

Can't wait to find out how many people are "healthier or cured" by Obamacare. ROFLMAO!!

Stimulus fund job benefits exaggerated, review finds - The Boston Globe
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This guy is priceless. Almost a trillion dollars on a stimulus that was supposed to create 3 million jobs, and now he's going to have a "jobs summit".

It's just a photo op to make you think he cares.

I love this quote.

It's important that we don't make any ill-considered decisions -- even with the best intentions -- particularly at a time when our resources are so limited.

End quote.

You mean like spending a couple trillion on a health care farce after spending a trillion on a stimulus farce after taking over car companies and banks while wasting a few billion on cash for clunkers while extending home buyer credits?

You mean like that? lol

Obama, heading for Asia and wrestling with Afghanistan, orders up jobs summit (text) | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times
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Re: Stimulus Facts:

Cool, one lawn mower can save 50 jobs.

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Stimulus working as planned in Michigan. That's the problem, it wasn't designed to create any jobs, it was designed to make more people dependant on a growing government. So ya, it's working as designed.

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"It looks to us like the program is unfolding much as we hoped in Michigan," said White House economic adviser Jared Bernstein.

End quote.

You'd have to be an idiot not to be either worried or angered by that ludicrous statement.

Billions for state, but where are jobs? | freep.com | Detroit Free Press
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This is becoming a comedy of errors.

Now we're "creating or saving" jobs in places that don't even exsist.

Jobs Saved or Created in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist - ABC News

Then there's all the bogus jobs.

75,343 Bogus jobs 'created or saved' by the Stimulus | Washington Examiner

But we did create one job in San Diego.


Can't wait for these guys to run health care.
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This is the predictable end result of a runaway big-spending liberal government.

We are now using "stimulus" funds to study the effect of new taxes and how to enact new taxes.

So we're using future tax dollars to figure out how to raise taxes to pay for things like the study that's being done to figure out how to raise taxes.................................

Free Market Groups See Soda-Tax Conspiracy - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
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More phoney numbers coming out of New York. 60 "saved" jobs is actually 1.54.

Creative government number crunching. Some are now calling it "Recovery.con

Some Say It's . . . Recovery.Con | www.putnamcountycourier.com | The Putnam County Courier
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Here's the result of government spending your money on stimulus. Guess what? Huge waste.

Wait'll they're running healthcare.

Cost Benefit Analysis of Jobs Stimulus-Reuters.com
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