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Old 10-23-2009, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Edit of our posts...

I'd like to know the purpose of only allowing us to edit or delete our own posts for a total of 19 minutes, after having been posted?

All other forums, that I (and other bubbler members) have visited over the years, do not restrict us in this way & i'm curious as to the reason behind it.

Also i've seen many complaints on theBubbler threads, by other members, who dislike that restriction here... Any possability of that changing?
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Re: Edit of our posts...

I know in the past I have had members private message me and ask me to change a post for them because they did not have that option. It is usually for spelling errors, but one time a person wanted me to remove a few sentences of her post since she later decided she did not feel comfortable with it in the post.

I have no problem doing this for people as the mod but the problem is no matter how much I try to be available I am not always here. There for someone may contact me and have to wait until I am back on, read the message, and go in and change the issue. If it is something the person feels uncomfortable after writing and posting a few hours can seem like a long time while other members are seeing the post.

I have no idea why the restriction on the edit button but if it is there to help with security issue perhaps it could be rectified by allowing the 'edit' button after a member posts a certain amount of posts and becomes 'known' in the forum? Or at least lengthen the time set from 19 minutes to a day to allow the member to change things.

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Re: Edit of our posts...

I wish I could change things at times, because I make typing mistakes and they don't get caught until later on.

There are a number of reasons for changing a post.
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I know in the past I have had members private message me and ask me to change a post for them because they did not have that option. It is usually for spelling errors, but one time a person wanted me to remove a few sentences of her post since she later decided she did not feel comfortable with it in the post.

I have no problem doing this for people as the mod but the problem is no matter how much I try to be available I am not always here. There for someone may contact me and have to wait until I am back on, read the message, and go in and change the issue. If it is something the person feels uncomfortable after writing and posting a few hours can seem like a long time while other members are seeing the post.

I have no idea why the restriction on the edit button but if it is there to help with security issue perhaps it could be rectified by allowing the 'edit' button after a member posts a certain amount of posts and becomes 'known' in the forum? Or at least lengthen the time set from 19 minutes to a day to allow the member to change things.

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I agree... security shouldn't be an issue, since we can only edit our own posts, no one elses & asking someone to do it for you is like a child asking permission IMO

allowing people this freedom makes sense... it's our post, we should be able to edit or even delete for any reason.

again this is just my opinion, but i have seen several members complain on the boards as well.
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Re: Edit of our posts...

Most forums I've been on allow you to go back and edit your own posts (but not delete them) .. not sure why it's not allowed here. May just be an oversight..

Maybe Steve or John can check into it as it's common fare elsewhere.

Meanwhile, you can always PM one of the Mods for changes if we're available.
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Most forums I've been on allow you to go back and edit your own posts (but not delete them) .. not sure why it's not allowed here. May just be an oversight..

Maybe Steve or John can check into it as it's common fare elsewhere.

Meanwhile, you can always PM one of the Mods for changes if we're available.

That's what we are trying to avoid doing... asking someone to do it for us, IF they are available.

It's a simple fix under configuration in the admin controls.
Hopefully someone will fix that for us
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Re: Edit of our posts...

All PMs here are set to alert me via email so even if I'm not here at the Bubbler, I'll generally see it within an hour if I'm home. Many times I'm here but set to "invisible" so I may see a PM sooner.

As for changing that setting, it's really up to Keith or one of the Admins/Programmers, I don't have that power and have no idea why it's set that way. They may have a good reason for doing so or it may have been an oversight.

I don't see any problem in allowing users to edit their own posts. Most forums allow you to do so but append a timestamp to show the post has been changed.

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That's what we are trying to avoid doing... asking someone to do it for us, IF they are available.

It's a simple fix under configuration in the admin controls.
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Re: Edit of our posts...

I looked around in the 'forum question section' and this is basically what I found:

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The only thing I can see here that may be why there is a time limit is the line that reads:

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I want to say I remember something being said to me one time that because of the fact that someone could eliminate an entire thread that they started if allowed to 'edit' after others posted was a reason for the time on it. I forgot all about this until I read it just now.

The only other thing I can say was this was told to me right after I became a mod and it was actually when we had the older version of the bubbler but since it is stated here also I'm guessing it is the same way still?
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Re: Edit of our posts...

I believe the posts can be set to edit without the option to delete.. most other sites have this option. I can understand not allowing the original poster an option to delete, if for no other reason than they may inadvertently affect an entire thread.

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An edit button without the delete option sounds good to me. I believe that in all other forums I use the edit button is available. I can't tell you how many times I will post a comment only to re read it later to see that I misspelled something and go back and change it. Even if the button's time is changed from a few minutes to perhaps a day would be more beneficial to the poster I would think.

Hopefully Keith or one of the admins will read this topic and change it for everyone.

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Re: Edit of our posts...

It's really just a matter of elevating a setting in the member usergroups control panel. Editing still works the same afterward and is transparent to the user but without the time limit restriction. It just appends a time stamp to the post to show it's been changed.

Again, any changes would be up to Keith or one of the other Admins.

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Hopefully Keith or one of the admins will read this topic and change it for everyone.

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I don't like having the time stamp either since then you'll will see how often I edit. I do a lot more than you think after I post something because I make typos.
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As far as I know there's no toggle to eliminate the time stamp.. that's actually a security feature.. suppose someone posted rules and changed them on a regular basis? Or there was a sales thread where the price changed? You'd want to be aware those things were changed and when.

Even we Mods get the time stamp if we've changed one of our posts after a period of time.

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It doesn't keep a running list of every time you edit. The time only shows the last time you made a edit. So if you did edits 5 times only the last one shows. So really no one knows how many times you hit the edit button to change a word unless they are right there watching the post change over and over. I will edit something and then go back and do it again several times to get it right in a matter of a few minutes sometimes.
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Re: Edit of our posts...

Keith... I've seen you on the site most of the morning today.

The mods who have responded are in favor of a change, but do not have the authority to make changes... Please, can we get an answer to this request, from you?


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Sorry for the belated reply.

NamePros.com is a favorite forum of mine and much of this forum and WebLoggers.ORG is modeled after NamePros. As I recall they have a limited 'edit' time.

We can lengthen ours. Suggested time? A day? A week?

Someone mentioned deleting. That's not an option where you have other posts in the thread because it throws off the conversation entirely.

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After further reflection, I'm thinking some of the NamePros forums (marketplace stuff where people are making buying and selling commitments) may have shorter times than others....perhaps that's why the relatively short time frame (which I've used as an example).

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Hi Keith, glad you were able to answer this post for Latina.

IMO if you are asking for suggested time span I can't see why a day wouldn't be good. I think most members merely want an edit button so that they can go back and change a misspelled word or after hitting that reply button they remember they wanted to add something else, or maybe after thinking about it decided they wanted to remove a thought. A day gives them plenty of time to look things over and change whatever is needed.

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So long as there's a timestamp and reason for editing option, I don't even see any reason to limit editing of one's own posts.
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Sometimes I see something I typed wrong more than a day later and can't change that. Not sure I understand any time limit since other forums I've been on have not limit.
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