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Old 09-23-2006, 10:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Holocaust Victims

The term Holocaust is widely taken to refer to the extermination of the European Jews by the Nazis. Once the nature and scale of the event became known, we all cried out Never Again or have we? Since this event gave us its name, our understanding has altered: we have come to realize that this was not unique in 20th Century history and that Jews were not its only victims. :cry:

Anyone who hasn't read the book by Elie Wiesel "Night" really needs to in order to comprehend tragedy, which beheld one survivor. No other individual is so identified with the Holocaust, its memory and its prevention as Wiesel.

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Quote 9: "Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, which has turned my life into one long night, seven times cursed and seven times sealed.... Never shall I forget those moments, which murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to dust. Never shall I forget these things, even if I am condemned to live as long as God Himself. Never." Chapter 3, pg. 32
Years ago I read this book and it really did a number to me, since then I have come to identify that America too isn't without our own faults of our own holocaust and segregation of people. For example the Blacks, Native Americans are the most familiar examples but have you ever thought about when wars occur who are the people under suspicion?

:arrow: Fact: Did you know Wisconsin newspapers used to print in German, schools were still taught in German, English was a second language for many families and then WWII happened…?

Anyway I’d like to hear from other bubbler members what your feel is for this tragedy. Please feel free to post-historical articles, news clips and as always your voices.
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Holocaust survivor Fela Warschau dies

Posted September 22, 2006

Holocaust survivor Fela Warschau dies

Native of Poland made Sheboygan her home after World War II

By Janet Ortegon
Sheboygan Press staff


Fela Warschau was a tiny woman with a soft voice, a kind smile and a horrific story.


Warschau, a Holocaust survivor who spent the last 20 years traveling around Wisconsin to share her story, died Wednesday at 79.

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http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbc...73257733041900

:arrow: For the past five years my father was taking his history students down for audience with Fela Warschau. I asked him this morning what he felt about losing this terrific speaker and he said, "Her piece of History will never be forgotten." Although I have never seen her touching epilogue of what happened I have seen two other individuals and have hear their survival while I was a student in College.
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It's sad that she died. I never met her, but the most important thing you can do as a survivor of that kind of terror is to make sure that everyone knows it not only can happen, but does.

I'm afraid that we've already forgotten a lot of the lessons we learned in the World Wars. Soon there won't be anyone left who remembers first hand how the Jews, gays, dissenters, and others were treated in Germany, or the less horrendous but still despicable way that anyone German-esque or Japanese-esque was herded into an internment camp in this country. We're already forgetting that it happens, even as it escalates again in this country with Muslims or anyone who might look vaguely Middle Eastern.
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Re: Holocaust Victims

Old thread but worthy of a bump for further comments..
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Re: Holocaust Victims

Sadly the world has not learned its lesson with genocide. How many have we had since the 1948 genocide convention to make sure it never happened again. Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur to name a few.

No one knows for sure of the exact numbers of people that were murdered under Hitler's reign of terror, but I've seen numbers as high as 17-21 million people. Many sources will say around 11 million. It wasn't just Jews, but there is many forgotten non-Jews that were killed. It was around 6 million Jews. The source I found 17 million on was 60 minutes website when a story was done on the secret records kept by the Nazis. They kept very good details, but not all of it is known to most of us. It seems very strange that they would keep such detailed records of people they were going to kill.

The numbers I'm listing doesn't include soldiers lost in war and so on. This is just the civilians that were killed.
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Sometimes you wonder how it can happen, but this explains how the stages of genocide take place one step at a time.

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