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Old 04-21-2005, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Racially motivated...

Can't a guy just fish in peace?

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JAMES KOGUTKIEWICZ - GM Today Staff

TOWN OF MERTON - An argument Tuesday between a black Milwaukee man who was fishing and two North Lake Fire Department firefighters involved racial epithets and led to the fisherman being threatened with a gun and a German shepherd dog, authorities said.
http://www.gmtoday.com/news/local_st...4212005_03.asp
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/du...s/11448250.htm
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"I saw this red truck stop by us and I thought he was going to ask me how the fishing was," Bratton said. Instead, he said one of the men used a derogatory term for blacks and told him to "get out of my town.
8O What the heck is wrong with people?
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ha! When i read that article, those were my exact words. My officemate just shot me a funny look, and went back to what he was doing.
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Did you hear his explanation of why he brought out his german shepard? Because "Black people don't like dogs" and he wanted the guy to run away for his own good.
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Old 04-22-2005, 09:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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What the heck is wrong with people?

I missed that part. un-freaking-believable! It's a crime!

By that logic:

"I robbed the bank because money is the root of all evil. I saved their souls. It was for their own good."
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What the heck is wrong with people?

I missed that part. un-freaking-believable! It's a crime!

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"I robbed the bank because money is the root of all evil. I saved their souls. It was for their own good."
It's stupid as can be. It isn't a crime.
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It's stupid as can be. It isn't a crime.
What exactly are you referring to here?
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It's stupid as can be. It isn't a crime.
What exactly are you referring to here?
Being offesively stupid isnt criminal. Racisim is a disgusting life style, Yes I said life style. But it isn't criminal.
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Threatening someone, however, regardless of the reason, is assault. That _is_ a crime. When it's racially motivated, it also falls under Hate Crime statutes, reaffirming that it is criminal activity.
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Threatening someone, however, regardless of the reason, is assault. That _is_ a crime. When it's racially motivated, it also falls under Hate Crime statutes, reaffirming that it is criminal activity.
Issuing a racial string of words is not assault. Waving the gun was. The hate crimes crap is another issue altogether.
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Threatening someone, however, regardless of the reason, is assault. That _is_ a crime. When it's racially motivated, it also falls under Hate Crime statutes, reaffirming that it is criminal activity.
Issuing a racial string of words is not assault. Waving the gun was. The hate crimes crap is another issue altogether.
Hate crimes crap? You dont think racially motivated crimes should have more severe penalties?
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Threatening someone, however, regardless of the reason, is assault. That _is_ a crime. When it's racially motivated, it also falls under Hate Crime statutes, reaffirming that it is criminal activity.
Issuing a racial string of words is not assault. Waving the gun was. The hate crimes crap is another issue altogether.
Hate crimes crap? You dont think racially motivated crimes should have more severe penalties?
No I don't. I think Murder is murder, Rape is rape, assualt is assualt. Does it matter if was a black on an asian? and why does it matter? If an asian kills a white is he deader because of the color of skin? If a white rapes a white is the crime less violent? It is a stupid law that is designed to do nothing but increase racism.
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Threatening someone, however, regardless of the reason, is assault. That _is_ a crime. When it's racially motivated, it also falls under Hate Crime statutes, reaffirming that it is criminal activity.
Issuing a racial string of words is not assault. Waving the gun was. The hate crimes crap is another issue altogether.
Hate crimes crap? You dont think racially motivated crimes should have more severe penalties?
No I don't. I think Murder is murder, Rape is rape, assualt is assualt. Does it matter if was a black on an asian? and why does it matter? If an asian kills a white is he deader because of the color of skin? If a white rapes a white is the crime less violent? It is a stupid law that is designed to do nothing but increase racism.
No, they're laws that make crimes like the lynchings that occured in the South more serious offenses. The race of the person doesn't matter, but the reason for the crime does.
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Threatening someone, however, regardless of the reason, is assault. That _is_ a crime. When it's racially motivated, it also falls under Hate Crime statutes, reaffirming that it is criminal activity.
Issuing a racial string of words is not assault. Waving the gun was. The hate crimes crap is another issue altogether.
Hate crimes crap? You dont think racially motivated crimes should have more severe penalties?
No I don't. I think Murder is murder, Rape is rape, assualt is assualt. Does it matter if was a black on an asian? and why does it matter? If an asian kills a white is he deader because of the color of skin? If a white rapes a white is the crime less violent? It is a stupid law that is designed to do nothing but increase racism.
No, they're laws that make crimes like the lynchings that occured in the South more serious offenses. The race of the person doesn't matter, but the reason for the crime does.
Why does the reason for the crime matter? Is it more violent if I hang you for being black. What if I just flat out hang you is that a better hanging? Did the black hanging have more death in it?
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Why does the reason for the crime matter? Is it more violent if I hang you for being black. What if I just flat out hang you is that a better hanging? Did the black hanging have more death in it?
Hate crimes are more than a crime against one person, they are an attempt to terrorize a community, which is more offensive and "worse" than a normal crime. Why its ok to allow for lesser charges in cases of self defense or mental deficiency, but not ok to have more severe charges in the case of a hate crime?
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