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Old 05-11-2009, 01:32 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized In Wisconsin?

Personally I frown on the idea of comparing drugs to say one should be legal because the other is and its worse. Instead I prefer to evaluate the facts of social impact, and in that essence alchohol should be illegal so I dont want to compare majihuana to that. However there are plenty of other reasons why pot should be legal without getting into the drug match game.

I have been a recreational user of majihuana for years starting in early high school (which I do regret) and I am still relatively young, just had my 23rd birthday. In high school though pot was easier to get than tobacco or alchohol mainly because it was illegal. Finding someone to get cigs and booze wasnt easy they had a reason not to it was legal for them to have but illegal for them to give to you. However with pot there was no reason for them not to sell to kids, it was illegal period regardless of who they got it for the penalty was the same. I feel that making pot legal will in fact drop the amount kids who can get it because most pot users dont want to be criminals and if they can posses it legally but giving it to a kid is illegal why do it? Its the same situation as with tobacco and alchohol which made them more difficult to obtain.

Some information on my situation I am currently facing a possible 12 years 6 months in prison for growing majihuana which was done strictly for personal use. I had nothing to suggest otherwise I didnt even own a scale. I have never hurt anyone, and I had a very good future ahead of me. This may scare some but I only had 1 semester left of college before I obtained my FAA certification as an Airframe and powerplant technician. So my question there is why am I facing a penalty worse than armed robbery? I work in a steel plant (I had to drop out of college after I was charged because they will not give federal funding to those charged with drug crimes) and a coworker of mine just got charged with his 4th aggravated assault and battery and is facing 18 months, so again where is the justice in our system? I will not pretend that I am innocent and do not deserve some punishment but our system is in place to provide justice and I cant seem to find it. My main point here is that while the courts want to lock me up for growing pot to smoke they turn around and give violent criminals a slap on the wrist, and that perhaps if they spent less time worrying about people like me maybe they could actually clean up our streets.

About majihuana being a gateway drug. I am mixed on this issue, in and of itself maijhuana does not lead to other drugs, but what I have always said about pot is the worst part of smoking pot is the people you have to associate with to get it. It is those associations that lead to other drugs. I would have never thought about going out to find mushrooms but when i meet my dealer to get a bag of weed and he says ohh btw ive got some good shrooms for a cheap price you want some? Then its a thought, so bicariously the pot did lead me to the other drug but it wasnt the pot that put me into that situation its where I have to get my pot that put me there. Elaborating on that if I could go to a pharmacy and get my pot (behind the counter next to the psuedofed) then I wouldnt be in the situation where I would be tempted to try ther drugs.

I am short on time now some I will make my summary. If pot where to be legalized just that step would make it more difficult for kids to obtain, free up time and resources to pursue real criminals, remove the "gateway" properties, and allow the people the freedom of choice which is what used to make our country unique and special. Thank you all for your enlightening and entertaining posts I wish you all the best.
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Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized In Wisconsin?

Thank you for sharing.

You do not sound like a person who should even face the potential of years in prison for your "offense". What is really offensive is the possibility of wasted years and expense - the initial point of my posts in this thread.

Thank you for sharing your story.

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Personally I frown on the idea of comparing drugs to say one should be legal because the other is and its worse. Instead I prefer to evaluate the facts of social impact, and in that essence alchohol should be illegal so I dont want to compare majihuana to that. However there are plenty of other reasons why pot should be legal without getting into the drug match game.

I have been a recreational user of majihuana for years starting in early high school (which I do regret) and I am still relatively young, just had my 23rd birthday. In high school though pot was easier to get than tobacco or alchohol mainly because it was illegal. Finding someone to get cigs and booze wasnt easy they had a reason not to it was legal for them to have but illegal for them to give to you. However with pot there was no reason for them not to sell to kids, it was illegal period regardless of who they got it for the penalty was the same. I feel that making pot legal will in fact drop the amount kids who can get it because most pot users dont want to be criminals and if they can posses it legally but giving it to a kid is illegal why do it? Its the same situation as with tobacco and alchohol which made them more difficult to obtain.

Some information on my situation I am currently facing a possible 12 years 6 months in prison for growing majihuana which was done strictly for personal use. I had nothing to suggest otherwise I didnt even own a scale. I have never hurt anyone, and I had a very good future ahead of me. This may scare some but I only had 1 semester left of college before I obtained my FAA certification as an Airframe and powerplant technician. So my question there is why am I facing a penalty worse than armed robbery? I work in a steel plant (I had to drop out of college after I was charged because they will not give federal funding to those charged with drug crimes) and a coworker of mine just got charged with his 4th aggravated assault and battery and is facing 18 months, so again where is the justice in our system? I will not pretend that I am innocent and do not deserve some punishment but our system is in place to provide justice and I cant seem to find it. My main point here is that while the courts want to lock me up for growing pot to smoke they turn around and give violent criminals a slap on the wrist, and that perhaps if they spent less time worrying about people like me maybe they could actually clean up our streets.

About majihuana being a gateway drug. I am mixed on this issue, in and of itself maijhuana does not lead to other drugs, but what I have always said about pot is the worst part of smoking pot is the people you have to associate with to get it. It is those associations that lead to other drugs. I would have never thought about going out to find mushrooms but when i meet my dealer to get a bag of weed and he says ohh btw ive got some good shrooms for a cheap price you want some? Then its a thought, so bicariously the pot did lead me to the other drug but it wasnt the pot that put me into that situation its where I have to get my pot that put me there. Elaborating on that if I could go to a pharmacy and get my pot (behind the counter next to the psuedofed) then I wouldnt be in the situation where I would be tempted to try ther drugs.

I am short on time now some I will make my summary. If pot where to be legalized just that step would make it more difficult for kids to obtain, free up time and resources to pursue real criminals, remove the "gateway" properties, and allow the people the freedom of choice which is what used to make our country unique and special. Thank you all for your enlightening and entertaining posts I wish you all the best.
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Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized In Wisconsin?

Today is 420 Day.. did Wisconsin "puff, puff, pass"?

420 Day celebrates the "non-medical" use of marijuana .. but here is a video on the medical use of marijuana in the treatment of glaucoma:

YouTube- Medical Cannabis in Wisconsin: Gary Storck talks of glaucoma and Wisconsin medical cannabis efforts
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Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized In Wisconsin?

NO!

Smoking tobacco causes lung cancer...marijuana will do that and more, long term...

Thank God, even the DEM controlled state legislature didn't have enough votes to pass any kind of marijuana law...that should tell you how unlikely pot will be legalized here in the badger state any time soon.
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Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized In Wisconsin?

I think once we see a relaxing of federal laws, we'll see more marijuana reform per state, regardless of political affiliation. Plenty of Republicans smoke marijuana as well.
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Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized In Wisconsin?

Hemp was grown commercially in Wisconsin during WWII and some of those plants escaped cultivation.

While starving my way through college I spent several summers as a field mechanic for the Green Giant Co.

One night on returning to my truck I saw several operators who had found a patch of this stuff and were using my acetylene torch in an attempt to dry it for smoking.

It was one of those 'do I laugh or do I cry' moments.
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Hemp is one thing. It's the male marijuana plant. Cannabis is the female, and the one that gives the smoker the desired effect. Smoking hemp will give you a head ache. Might as well smoke some seaweed.
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Hemp is one thing. It's the male marijuana plant. Cannabis is the female, and the one that gives the smoker the desired effect.
Hmmm; interesting.

I always thought that, call it hemp, marijuana, or cannibis sativa it was the same species. And I know that a flower has male parts (the stamen) and female parts (the pistil) but I never thought that an entire plant could be male or female.

Any botanists (or growers) out there?
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The Difference Between Hemp and Cannabis and Marijuana

Difference between cannabis and hemp

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I always thought that, call it hemp, marijuana, or cannibis sativa it was the same species. And I know that a flower has male parts (the stamen) and female parts (the pistil) but I never thought that an entire plant could be male or female.

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Ultimately I think, like Prohibition, the government will concede the War on Drugs is unwinnable and legalize (and tax) marijuana use.
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i recently watched a documentary about marijuana; i can say without a doubt that it was the best documentary about marijuana that i've ever watched. Even better than the one National Geographic did. Its call "THE UNION: The business behind getting high" i watched it on netflix, streamed through the ps3 to the tv. I recommend watching it, whether you are for or against the legalization of marijuana. Entertaining and educational
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I recently read that legalizing marijuana would not necessarily reduce crime tho.. and that makes sense as criminals would just branch out into other activities such as kidnapping (already big business) or even politics
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I recently read that legalizing marijuana would not necessarily reduce crime tho.. and that makes sense as criminals would just branch out into other activities such as kidnapping (already big business) or even politics
So, if marijuana is legalized in Wisconsin, kidnapping would go on the rise.
Is that whether a person smokes it or not? And what about those recipes that call for the use of infused cannabis oil, will it be legal to use it for that purpose, or strictly smoking. I used to smoke the stuff, but the high quality offerings found these days, raised too much hell with my lungs. That's why I asked about using it in cooking/baking recipes. The infused oil is easy to make, and rather cheap to use, and the effect is much more concentrated.


A lady named "Dr. Diane" has posted a YouTube video that describes and demonstrates the making, and some of the products made using cannabis oil.

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Interesting but it would take alot more to convince me that it should be legalized for anything but for special cases that a Dr. can determine.
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Interesting but it would take alot more to convince me that it should be legalized for anything but for special cases that a Dr. can determine.
But those 'special cases' where doctors are giving out medical cards in other states are a complete joke. You can get a medical card for almost any ailment. Oversleeping, undersleeping, overeating, undereating, headaches, soreness, anything. It's come down to paying $200 and picking a symptom from a list.
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I suspect it's very tempting to take that extra money.. we had a dr with a good practice locally that "sold" prescriptions.. ended up being indicted and committed suicide. It's a shame because I really liked the guy.. dr who took over his practice also committed suicide but for unknown reasons.

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