My fish rescue business is in danger. Can you help?

[Kelly68]

Thanks for the links Greg. Problem being, I have been there and done that. I talked to several people down there. I did send out an email to a guy named Randy a few weeks back. But thank you for looking into different things for me. And thanks again for writing YORK on my behalf. I am anxious to see if you get a personal email back from them but I am not holding my breath on that one.

[Kelly68]

Well I guess they are going to replace the heating element in my furnace. Apparently my furnace is running too hot and that is causing it to throw my codes and not work. So I have been told. After taking it all apart and siliconing everything back into place, it still does it. Next step is to replace the element. I just say, once things get taken apart sealed and resealed, it is time for a new one, especially seeing it IS new. Grrrr.!!!!!! I now have to wait their game in we have one ordered and will call when it comes in to set up a time to fix it. I just want to scream. I call into today to the rep was never returned. This is so frustrating. I want to be guaranteed that after things are taken out and put back on and taken off and put back on it still will seal and work properly. I did notice after the first time things were taken off, my motor was a little louder on startup. They said it will do that when it is taken off and put back on. It is normal. And now they have to do it again!

[pk]

Isn't there some kind of lemon law that you can use on this NEW furnace that never worked??

[Kelly68]

If there is one I wish someone would tell me. If you type in Wisconsin Lemon Law all that comes up is information about cars, trucks, boats, ski jets, etc. I have tried to find something but I keep hitting a dead end. I guess they have to come in and tear my furnace apart yet again and replace the Secondary Heat Exchanger. To silicone everything in just to tear it apart again. My furnace motor got louder after they took it out and put it back in too. The part MAY be here next week. They had to order it. Will call when it comes in. My patience is soooo wearing out.

[pk]

My patience is soooo wearing out.

Patience?? PATIENCE??? lol oh no...my patience would have been long gone by now. You are a good person to even have any patience left at all for these people.

[Kelly68]

I am one that tries to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I am not a mean spirited person by any means. I am still waiting on the phone call for the number crunching game the rep is doing right now. He is plugging numbers in on how much this equipment "should" be costing me to run and what it "is" costing me to run. No word on the new part arriving yet.

[pk]

I am still waiting on the phone call for the number crunching game the rep is doing right now. He is plugging numbers in on how much this equipment "should" be costing me to run and what it "is" costing me to run. No word on the new part arriving yet.
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Just wondering, after the 'rep' figures out that you have been paying a ton more $$ then you should have been paying if their 'new' furnace worked properly, are they going to give you a refund back for the difference on your gas/electric bill? Otherwise, what is the point of the 'numbers'?

[Kelly68]

I did bring up the fact that if this was resolved on a timely manner (and we are going on a 11 months now with still no resolution) that I wouldn't be in such arrears with Public Service. Plus, I don't see why I should be responsible for my entire bills and someone should be compensating me for this problem. Month after month after month of high bills and no acknowledgment that I exist, someone will be helping me with my bill. He wants to run numbers of what this equipment "should" be costing me per month to run. And go from there. Now a waiting game.

[Kelly68]

Well, no call back yet with the guy running the numbers. He was supposed to of gotten back to me a few days ago. My part it is and they want to come in tomorrow morning and put it in and see if PLAN B works. I am not holding my breath that it will fix it as others really don't think it will.

I know Greg sent out a few letters trying to light a fire under my city for advice and or help. He sure is stirring the pot at least. Thanks Greg!

[pk]

I know Greg sent out a few letters trying to light a fire under my city for advice and or help.

I also sent a letter to the chamber of commerce in your area last night. I am thinking they will remember me as the woman calling and complaining about all of this a month ago. So far I have yet to hear back from them. Not surprising, out of all the letters I have sent out to various news sources, etc. etc. etc in your area...I have yet to receive one email back from anyone concerning this matter.

Unreal.

[Kelly68]

Oh yeah, I found out some interesting information after talking with a very nice lady with the IRS regarding Non Profit. She helped me via the phone on where to go on their site as it gets complicated. She referred me to a specific article explaining the details on non profit. Especially one area in particular talking about that very small non profits such as myself can still be non profit in the eyes of the IRS and not have a 501(c)(3) number. Here are the details:

As long as I meet all the requirements of what a non profit stands for (which she said I do) then these laws WILL apply:

"Any organization (other than a private foundation) normally having annual gross receipts of not more than $5000." These organizations are exempt automatically if they meet the requirements of section 501(c)(3)."

The bigger non profits who get tons of donations exceed that $5000 need to file the form 1023 to get their number. Because I will not be having more than $5000 in donations I do not need the number but still am classified as a non profit and people can still use it as a tax deduction. If at any point in my rescue if I get beyond that point I can file at any time. The cost for me will be $300 (a one time application fee) to get a number.

[demon71]

I did get a reply from Mayor Doug Williams of Merrill this morning.
I copied him on the email to the Chamber of Commerce.
We will see if anything else happens.
Feel free to email the Mayor at Doug.Williams@ci.merrill.wi.us
maybe enough emails from all over the state will make them pay attention.
Who knows, maybe with the Mayors connection in government he will be able to get someone at the State level to get involved.
Offer him suggestions on what he may be able to do but be nice.

[Kelly68]

Thanks Greg. Not sure if really cares as Patti tried once to contact them and they wouldn't give her the time of day on the phone.

My part came in. They replaced the Secondary Heat Exchanger. The heating guy was rude like always. Wouldn't answer my questions with respect. Just being a plain jerk. I know he didn't get a proper reading as he only left the temp probe in for about 2 minutes. Last time they left it in for 10-15 minutes to get the high reading. At 2 minutes, what kind of fair reading is this?

Soooo.... I left a message with the guy from Ferguson (the Tech guy) about how rude this guy was on everything. He was out of the office Friday so he won't get the message til Tuesday. I was so mad at the way I was yet again treated.

[Woodman9]

I've returned recently after not visiting 'The Bubbler' for several months and immediately saw this thread & was curious enough to read pretty much all the posts and even visit your website. Unfortunately, I've drawn a few conclusions that you may not appreciate.

There are many causes, problems, issues & misfortunes that people deal with on a daily basis. I think most of the people that you have contacted in an attempt to resolve your problem are caring & genuinely kind people. However, you seem to be painting them all as the opposite. If everyone doesn't drop what they are doing to assist you, then they are wrong. "Help" in resolving an issue such as yours can be had but not through a bitter and untrusting attitude on the part of the person seeking help.

Other Comments..........

In a case such as yours, the first person you should have contacted was a lawyer. You say you can't afford a lawyer. The truth is that you can't afford not to have a lawyer applying pressure with a few legal documents & orders. If you had done this in the very beginning, your problem with your heating & cooling system may very well have been history by now.

You say you take in unwanted fish. You also say that your fish are procreating on a daily basis. The number of fish you have continually climbs. Don't you need to find a place for these fish at some point in time? I mean, what is the end result of your operation?

Finally, dogs & cats can be touched by their owners. They have names. They come when you call. They have very individual personalities. They show love & attention to their owners. Although I feel for the plight of all creatures, not all creatures are the same. Please don't try to lump fish into the same category. They are important but they are not the same.

[pk]

First of all Woodman I would like to start off by saying it is always great to see someone that has been a member for quite some time join in on the forum.

I do however have a few things I would like to respond to that you may not agree with but that's the point of the forum, to be able to express one's view point in a 'respectful' manner.

First of all if I may start off with my view point of your slant on Kelly's attitude....

"Help" in resolving an issue such as yours can be had but not through a bitter and untrusting attitude on the part of the person seeking help.

LOL I personally think and again this is just my view point...but Kelly has been one of the most patient and kind hearted people all through her terrible ordeal that she has been a victim of. I say 'victim' since she did not ask for her bills to sky rocket from a contractor that did a shoddy job and then refuse to answer her calls leaving her to fend for herself in this matter.

Her attitude of bitter? I certainly do not read this in any of her posts. Maybe perhaps you should go back and read her posts again. But honestly...I think someone that has gone through what she has been through could easily be bitter...I know I would have lost my patience and my kindness a long time ago! But not Kelly, even though she has been rightly upset, she still has tried to keep senseable all through out this mess. I have even commented on her patience before.

In a case such as yours, the first person you should have contacted was a lawyer. You say you can't afford a lawyer. The truth is that you can't afford not to have a lawyer applying pressure with a few legal documents & orders. If you had done this in the very beginning, your problem with your heating & cooling system may very well have been history by now

Again, perhaps you should go over the part where Kelly tells the story of how she did go to a lawyer and was told that the company that did the work on her furnace has been sued before, possible being sued again, and if she tried to sue that she would not only be out the retainer fee of the lawyer but would not get anywhere if the company went bankrupted which was how it was looking at that time for this company. At least that is how I read the posts.

You say you take in unwanted fish. You also say that your fish are procreating on a daily basis. The number of fish you have continually climbs. Don't you need to find a place for these fish at some point in time? I mean, what is the end result of your operation?

Kelly of course could explain her operations much better than I can...but I will say that she is a rescue business for unwanted fish. She is actually the only rescue business in our state. She has helped in many ways to save and care for fish in need. She also has a business of raising Angel Fish which in turns off sets the cost of the rescue to some degree.

Finally, dogs & cats can be touched by their owners. They have names. They come when you call. They have very individual personalities. They show love & attention to their owners. Although I feel for the plight of all creatures, not all creatures are the same. Please don't try to lump fish into the same category. They are important but they are not the same.

You are correct that fish are not the 'same' as dogs or cats. But it should not make them less of a creature. They may not have to be walked and cared for as a dog, but they also require a lot of work to maintain their 'homes' in order for them to survive. They depend on humans to care for their needs and in return they are beautiful to watch and can also be a health benefit for those with high blood pressure and to relieve stress. Maybe you could sit and watch a tank full of fish and see how calming it can be.

No, they are not the 'mans' best friend like a dog, or fun to cuddle like a kitten but in the eyes of those the choose to love them as pets, fish can become very important. Just in a different way.

I personally hate to see any animal suffer and I feel that fish especially thousands and thousands such as Kelly has should not be made to die without as many of us helping if we can.

[Kris10]

Originally Posted by Woodman9

Please don't try to lump fish into the same category. They are important but they are not the same.

Tell that to Stanley, our Oscar, who we spent HUNDREDS of dollars on to nurse him back to health when he took ill. He means that much to us. We'd do the same for our cats because our pets are our children.

Any animal that you love and care for is a pet, it doesn't matter what type of animal they are.

[Woodman9]

All you have to do is read Kelly68's last post:

"The heating guy was rude like always. Wouldn't answer my questions with respect. Just being a plain jerk."

I think I can say with some confidence that nearly all the people that she has contacted are actually performing their jobs at the time. Most if not all have only a slight understanding of her dilemma. As a result, their responses to her requests may not be immediate & fast enough for her. They have many other responsibilities on the job. Look at her conclusions about the heating guy! She doesn't even know him but yet he's now a jerk. Name calling is bitterness.

There are many lawyers to choose from. In fact, there are many lawyers who probably would have taken this case pro bono. What would you rather have helping you in this situation? A lawyer opening all the legal avenues available or a bunch of people posting on a website offering opinions & 'emotional support'.

You're defending the importance of fish. We have no argument here. In fact we have basically said the same about their importance & right to be cared for by people.

Kelly needs to focus on generating revenue from her fish. She simply cannot continue to have her fish numbers increase without the money to support the increases. I'm guessing that even if the huge electrical costs had never happened, ultimately money to support the ever-growing fish population would have been a problem. 12,000 !!

Finally, some of you posters must be 100% vegetarian. If not, then some of the 'glowing' statements being posted are bogus.

[pk]

All you have to do is read Kelly68's last post:

"The heating guy was rude like always. Wouldn't answer my questions with respect. Just being a plain jerk."

I think I can say with some confidence that nearly all the people that she has contacted are actually performing their jobs at the time. Most if not all have only a slight understanding of her dilemma. As a result, their responses to her requests may not be immediate & fast enough for her. They have many other responsibilities on the job. Look at her conclusions about the heating guy! She doesn't even know him but yet he's now a jerk. Name calling is bitterness.

Correct me if I'm wrong here..but you mentioned in your first post that you read almost all the posts on this topic, right? In fact here is what you wrote:

immediately saw this thread & was curious enough to read pretty much all the posts and even visit your website

but yet you go all the way to the very last comment that Kelly wrote and jumped on the fact that she wrote that the man was a jerk. Did you not read all the weeks, months, that she spent prior to this comment that she went through with the bull the representatives have given her about this whole problem? I think most of us by this time would be calling names a lot worse than 'jerk'. And she only implied this because the man has been rude to her. I think at this point she deserves some answers wouldn't you think? By actually reading all her posts of which I have followed them, I can't see how anyone can say she has been the rude or impolite one, she has maintained a pretty good sense of caring and trying not to over step herself in any comments. She has in fact tried to do the opposite and she has showed herself to be a very caring person.

I'm also amazed that you can state a fact that

Most if not all have only a slight understanding of her dilemma.

. I'm just curious how you come to this conculsion when Kelly clearly writes many times over that she goes over and over all of the problems in full detail with the reps she contacts. I think they know of her dilemma and that is why they clearly don't want to get involved. The first contractor did a terrible job and now they simply don't want to take on the 'fixing' of the problem he has left behind. Clearly the company, York, knows all about this since several letters besides Kelly's phone calls have been made to them concerning this whole issue. You could not have read all the posts that has been covered on this subject if you come to the conclusion that the reps only have a 'slight understanding'.

There are many lawyers to choose from. In fact, there are many lawyers who probably would have taken this case pro bono. What would you rather have helping you in this situation? A lawyer opening all the legal avenues available or a bunch of people posting on a website offering opinions & 'emotional support'.

I do believe Kelly mentioned that she tried to find a good lawyer. In fact the lawyer she did go to was at least a lawyer that was familiar with the company and the issues. As far as pro bono I do believe she looked into this also at one point. It is very difficult to find any lawyer to do pro bono work. I myself called and spoke to the city attorney's office. There has been very little stones unturned trying to find help for Kelly in some way. She turned to the websites as just one form of help. And the interesting part is that the forum members are the only ones that helped her the most. Not just in offering 'emotional support' but in sending much needed donations for her rescue. One member also has helped Kelly establish a means of a small cash flow with a website selling hats/t-shirts etc. Since you mentioned that you read most of the comments on this issue did you see this help and go to this site to view the various things for sale to help Kelly?

Kelly needs to focus on generating revenue from her fish.

Well in her many posts she has maintained the fact that not only does she have this fish rescue but she also has a business SELLING and raising Angel Fish that helps off set the cost of the fish rescue.

Finally, some of you posters must be 100% vegetarian. If not, then some of the 'glowing' statements being posted are bogus.

With this last statement of yours I almost would have to say that you sound like the bitter person here. You are drawing from your own thoughts that if a person is not 100% vegetarian then the 'glowing statements' being posted are bogus. Well sir, I take that as if you feel that the many 'glowing' statements I've made must be all lies since I had a nice huge steak last night and I love to eat fish too. So I am certainly not a vegetarian. I simply can see a good person that needs help and I try to do my best. I don't know Kelly, I have never yet had the pleasure of meeting her in person, I have not seen her business other than the pictures she has shared. But I do feel that she has shown herself to be a good character on here and I have no problem trying to help someone. After all what goes around comes around and we all may need to reach out and ask for help someday.

[Woodman9]

This will be my last post on this thread.

To refer to anyone as a 'jerk' assures her of having an adversarial reaction from the one person who may be able to shed some light on her heating/cooling problems. The mayor of Merrill can't fix her furnace, a lawyer can't fix her furnace, a rep can't fix her furnace and whether you can accept it or not, you can't fix her furnace. It's called shooting yourself in the foot. The poor dude who makes a house call fulfilling his job requirements & maybe the only one who can truly help her is a 'jerk'. It's irrelevent at what time this post was made. This approach may very well have existed from day one.

A simply question: how much revenue has been generated since day one and how much effort & time is devoted to producing revenue? It can't just be part of your plan. You have to actually do it.

Finally - my next to very last comment on this thread.

Many who have posted with advice & endless opinions may have actually prolonged this dilemma to a point where it becomes almost unsolvable. When you throw a blanket over an issue you usually end up smothering the solution. IMO, Kelly68 would have been wise to confide in a few knowledgeable people to help her. An open forum such as this has very limited answers. Look at the posts: mostly opinions, endless links & emotional support.

Finally.

I'm not questioning anyone's character, only their expertise & focus. Also, I really don't care what your diet is comprised of.

[Kelly68]

I am not exactly sure what to say about the new posts on here. Maybe Woodman got the wrong impression of me somewhere and for that I am sorry. I shouldn't have to apologize for who I am, but that is just the kind of person I am. To say I am sorry whether I did anything wrong or not.

For me to finally call this contractor a "jerk" I have no regrets over. For Woodman to say I do not know this man and he was only here to do his job....he has or ever will have any clue to that statement. I have dealt with this "jerk" for almost a year now. He has no more light to shed on this problem. This is supposed to be a guy conducting business but he was just someone who took $9000 of my money and basically ran with it. This is a man who has left me hung out to dry. This is also a man who has left me hours, days and weeks on end with no answers or return phone calls. Then when I finally get the upper reps and major companies involved does he HAVE to call me. I say HAVE to because they are MAKING him. They feel he is the one that got paid for a job and he SHOULD be the one to make it right. Then to come in here because he was TOLD to come make it right and treat me like a pion with major disrespect and rudeness that I had no right to get anyone else invovled. THIS IS NOT MY FAULT but he treats me as it is.

So to call this man a jerk, is being very nice. I am a very respectful, understanding person. I gave him the benefit of the doubt month after month after month. I tried to let him make it right. That is why I procrastinated as long as I did without an attorney. To see a fellow businessman get in trouble is not my cup of tea. I am not the get the person in trouble kind of person. I am very patient, very understanding human being. And all this time all he has done is continuously run me over with a train over and over again.

For me to try and save my business, keep a roof over our head, raise three kids, believe me there is nothing I would like more then to sue the pants off this guy. I have talked to several attorneys and they all say the same thing..I have a wonderful case...but show me the money. No one has offered any pro bono work. I just don't have $1500 on a drop of a dime to retain an attorney. And yes, maybe if I would have hired an attorney early in the game I wouldn't be where I am right now. I didn't have $1500 then either. PLUS, I tried to give him every opportunity to make it right and not be sue happy.

Should I be embarrassed regarding my situation. No. Am I? Yes. Because it is people like you that make me second guess all my hard work. This is a full time job for me. This is a 7 day a week 365 days a year job. I get no vacation or time off. Am I complaining? NO. Because I love what I do and my job is to save a life. I have put my heart, soul and any earnings or savings I did have into this business to be taken advantage of. Then all I get is negativity from people who don't have a clue but like to judge others.

I have been so patient. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Unless I find money to hire an attorney here I sit trying to fight it on my own. I have called every place in the State asking for assistance. Better Business Bureau, Dept of Agriculture, Dept of Aquaculture, UW Extensions, etc etc. I am not just relying on the forums to get answers. But I have a lot of friends on here that can offer good advice or just an ear.

One last comment. I grant you that you can hold, pet, kiss or hug cats or dogs (which I have my share of those too) but because you physically cannot do that to a fish they are not worth saving? This is why I started this rescue. Because of people who share that same thinking as you do. I know first hand that fish have feelings and have attitudes or personalities. I can have others share stories too saying that fish are just as much worth saving as dogs or cats. I have nothing to prove to anyone who are negative about what I do. Maybe that is why I got a call from someone who is almost 3 hours away today desperately trying to save a fish and do the right thing. Willing to drive half way with gas being $4 a gallon to do the right thing. That is why I am willing to drive half way with gas being $4 a gallon to do the right thing. All this to "just save a fish". THEY ARE IMPORTANT AND YES THEY ARE THE SAME as any other living breathing creature out there. Is it this fish's fault that when it was bought the store that sold it didn't properly tell the person buying it that it could get up to 3 feet in diameter? So now when it reaches 12 inches and can't move in the tank it is the fish's fault to die? A proper fish owner like this wonderful lady did an online search and found me and begged me to please help her save her fish.

THIS IS WHY I DO WHAT I DO AND I AM PROUD OF IT

I will get this heating mess figured out and when I do there is no stopping me on what I can accomplish. Heck even the Milwaukee Zoo found out about me and is referring people my way. How cool is that!

Kelly

the proud owner and founder of KARS (Kelly's Aquatic Rescue Services) and Finned Friends

[demon71]

Kelly,
Don't get to upset with Woodman9.
It is clear to me that he did not read all of the posts on the forum. If he had then he would possibly understand everything that you are going through and have done to try to get this resolved.
Maybe it is clearer to me because we have shared so many emails and phone calls outside of the forum about all of the things you have done and could try to do to resolve this.

Keep on doing what you do best. The world needs more people like you.

Greg

Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for it.
— Henry David Thoreau

[pk]

Thank you Kelly for your post. I knew you could explain alot better than I was doing and had all the actual facts. It must get so difficult when some people just speed read through some of the past posts and then think they can try and point the finger at you.

I can't answer for everyone here but I know that anytime you need 'moral support' you can always pm me. I can't fix your furnace which has been pointed out by the last member, but there is nothing wrong with someone just needing others to talk to when you are feeling frustrated and that I can help with anytime.

By the way..it's fantastic that the Milwaukee Zoo has now heard about your rescue.

[Woodman9]

I had to post one last time in response to the above posts.

Kelly68

I see demon71 & pk have again offered their emotional support & encouragement. Maybe you could take this support & hire a lawyer. Er... Wait... I forgot, it doesn't work that way.

I have reread my posts & can't see where I have questioned your good intentions anywhere. The only thing I have questioned are the endless posts by your supporters that have resulted in very few positive results. It's so easy to key a few words on-line in a forum such as this & think that you have done something for someone.

All I'm doing is trying to get you to focus on what has a better chance of improving your dilemma. I offer no emotional support. Emotional support is cheap & easy. Emotional support involves very little sacrifice on the part of the givers. You have gotten yourself into this mess & it is imperative that you focus on the realities of it. Quit defending yourself & focus on what you need to do to salvage your ‘lifelong dream’. Why take the time to defend yourself to me. You should have asked me just one question in response to my post: “What would you do in my shoes?”

I ask you again: A simply question: how much revenue has been generated since day one and how much effort & time is devoted to producing revenue? It can't just be part of your plan. You have to actually do it.

You have 12,000 plus fish. How many can be sold? Angelfish. How many do you have & what are they possibly worth?

I did a search & found hundreds & hundreds of 'Tropical Fish Retailers' just in Wisconsin. Have you in some form or fashion contacted all retailers in an effort to sell your fish? I don't mean a few, I mean all of them. Do you have any type of marketing tool such as a brochure, file for e-mail, or anything where retailers know you even exist?

I have scrutinized your website. It is very well done. Good explanations with good pics. How many hits do you get in a day? You have eleven links. You should have several hundred with your link on several hundred other websites. You mention that you will be able to ship (mail) fish sometime in the future. You need to do whatever it takes to accomplish this now.

I could go on & on.........

[demon71]

Woodman,
Do I sense an offer to help somewhere in your last post?
I didn't think so.
I think that it is just your nature to find all of the things that people do wrong and make sure that you point them out.
Some of us on this forum have offered more then just encouragement and support and have actually done things that will help Kelly solve this problem.
It will get resolved but you will probably have to read a lot more posts on this forum before that happens.

[Kelly68]

Thanks Greg. I didn't really hear any form of "help" either except to criticize for apparently what he thinks I am NOT doing.

Yes, I have contacted EVERY pet store in the state. But I do work one on one with a wholesaler from the southern part of the state that buys EVERYTHING that grows to a quarter size.

As for the emotional support I get from this site and my group of friends here is very much needed. If it wasn't for them, I probably would have given up and threw in the towel months ago. They have done a lot for me besides emotional support also. Letter writings, phone calls, setting up online stores for me and Greg was even so nice to post items for sale and all proceeds would go to help my business.

A person can only do what they can do when it comes to what resources they have available. If you are so gun ho on making sure you can point out all the bad or what I am not doing.....why don't you go back and make a list of everything I and everyone has done on here for me did. I bet that column has so much more in it. I have exhausted all resources and the only thing I can do is try and make enough money or find an attorney that is willing to take payments.

I did talk to an attorney from the Milwaukee area yesterday. This HUGE law firm filed a suit against my contractor for the amount of almost $33,000. He will be coming to my area in a few weeks for court and asked me to call him back in 2-3 weeks so he can give me a better understanding of what and who I am dealing with. He didn't want to steer me in the wrong direction without knowing first hand what I am going through here. He asked me two simple questions:

1. Is this guy still around?

2. Is he still doing business?

He was very surprised that my answer was yes to both questions.

I am not rolling over and playing "dead" by any means. For you to think I am not "focused" and only defending myself to you is far from the truth. You haven't been in my shoes, you have no idea how many phone calls and or emails I have out there to every place in the state that I could find a phone number or email for. You have no idea how many COUNTLESS hours I have spent on this and still try to keep my business afloat and keep my family intact. This would not be an easy feat for anyone.

You made a comment that just made my day. How you can be so cold is beyond me. But thanks for ruining my day with you insight. You said "YOU HAVE GOTTEN YOURSELF INTO THIS MESS......" Where is any of this my fault? I haven't gotten myself into anything. I am trying to fix what someone else has done TO me. In a town with little resources and in a time where things are hard on everyone.

At least everyone on this site and others have found my cause and business to be worthwhile and felt the need to donate to the rescue. All donations raised was enough to bypass the immediate danger of losing my power. Today, from funds of my own I will make another payment. Next month I am not sure how things will go. I shouldn't have to tell anyone what type of revenue my business brings in. What I will tell you is what I make isn't covering what my high utilitity bills are costing. What I am supposed to be making should cover my business usage, what the rescue takes from me and have enough to help contribute to my private life. BUT....what I am making is not covering my utility business usage due to how high they are because of the faulty equipement.

Take what I say and do what you want with it. If you don't like what I or others say on my thread, then don't post. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I give you that. But if all you will do is criticize others and kick them when they are down then why do that to another human being?

Thank you to all my Bubbler friends who are out there to help me.