Why are some folks so cruel? I'm totally outraged at reading about these individuals whom treat animals this way. Would you trust folks that you know to have done something awful toward our animal/bird counterparts to be around your children?
Last year while I still residing in Oshkosh at Menominee county park, some person thought it would be funny to decapitate a mother duck leaving her ducklings to die a slow and cold death. I was very pleased when I found out about an arrest, although I do think they should have served more time behind bars.
PS: the ducklings were rescued and raised at the local zoo.
As an animal activist for all species I would like to remind everyone that these are also God’s children.
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Green Bay Press Gazette Feb2, 2006
Police search for suspect in animal cruelty case
Bottle rockets found strapped to dead goose
By Paul Srubas psrubas@greenbaypressgazette.com
Green Bay police are looking for someone who taped fireworks to a Canada goose, ignited them and killed the bird. On Dec. 23, someone reported finding the dead bird in a driveway of the 2900 block of Gilbert Drive, on the city's east side. The police department's humane officer found the carcass with spent explosives taped to it. Police are investigating it as an act of cruelty to animals, which can bring a charge carrying a maximum penalty of 3½ years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Lt. Dave Wesely of the Green Bay Police Department described the explosives as bottle rockets.
Green Bay Police officers recently went through training to identify signs of neglect to animals when responding to calls that may not be directly related to animals, said Capt. Greg Urban. Recognizing those signs may lead to bigger things through investigation.
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"In many cases if there's mistreatment or cruelty to animals there may be domestic abuse to spouses or physical abuse of children, so that's one possible indicator,"
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Thank you for posting this, Amber. It makes me absolutely sick to read this, but we need to be aware of animal cruelty and work to stop it. Often criminals that murder or mame humans have a history of animal cruelty. As shown with the heroin trafficing in puppies this week, many people think of animals as disposable. Animals can't speak for themselves so we have to speak and act for them!
As a pet owner, I'd love to rescue every homeless or abused animal out there but I know this is not practical. Supporting legitimate shelters and rescues financially or by volunteering can make a huge difference. Organizations like the ASPCA are also great resources for the news in animals rights and legislation.
I agree with you Amber, when i first read that story it made me sick! Would love to meet the guy that did it...wait, maybe not, dont want to go to jail.
Green Bay police say a reward is being offered in the death of a Canada goose in December.
The bird was found dead in a residential driveway after fireworks were duct-taped to it and ignited with a fuse.
The Green Bay Police Department is pleased to announce that the United States Humane Society has offered a $2500.00 reward towards the apprehension and successful conviction of the person or persons responsible for the death of the Canada goose on Dec. 23, 2005.
Thus far there have been no other leads received.
If anyone has any information regarding this incident of animal cruelty please contact the Green Bay Police Department at 448-3208, or Crime Stoppers at 432-STOP (432-7867).
Groups offer reward in Green Bay goose killing case
GREEN BAY, Wis. Two groups are offering a reward in an animal cruelty case in Green Bay.
Someone taped explosives to a Canada goose and ignited them, killing the bird.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and the Humane Society are offering a total of three-thousand-500 dollars for information leading to the conviction of whoever killed the goose in December.
Police are investigating it as a case of cruelty to animals, a charge carrying a maximum penalty of more than three years in prison and a ten-thousand-dollar fine. :cry:
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If anyone has any information regarding this incident of animal cruelty please contact the Green Bay Police Department at 448-3208, or Crime Stoppers at 432-STOP (432-7867).
In the end, Valentine looked nothing like the stocky, stereotyped image of a pit bull. The 5-month-old puppy was hairless, gaunt and bruised.
The photos are hard to look at. And they are one more result of a cruel twist: Long-maligned pit bulls are increasingly the victims – not aggressors – in Oshkosh, part of what Oshkosh Area Humane Society leaders call a "disturbing" trend of abuse and deaths for a stereotyped dog.
Animal cruelty charges are pending against Valentine's owner who so neglected the puppy that she died "emaciated and lethargic with severe skin issues.", according to Humane Society and the Oshkosh Police Department, Valentine.
"Pit bills by virtue of genetics are very social dogs," said OAHS Executive Director Joni Geiger. "They are really sweet social, friendly dogs. To see them physically abused by their owners or other people involved with them – it's a real shame, and it's very cruel."
Valentine was brought to shelter on Feb. 13. She was subsequently euthanized after Lakeside Veterinary Hospital doctors concluded she was too severely malnourished to save.
"This is something that had to occur over several weeks at a minimum to reach such a severe condition," Lakeside's Dr. John Popp stated in a release announcing pending charges against Valentine's owner.
In January, a severely injured pit bull was discovered in the town of Black Wolf. Officials initially thought the dog, dubbed "Sophie" by shelter staff, was the victim of dog fighting because of puncture wounds to her head, feet and body and had one of her ears torn off.
An investigation ruled out dog-fighting, but left unanswered how the dog was injured.
Sophie had to be destroyed based on the severity of the injuries.
Geiger said the humane society ran into another disturbing pit-bull case recently. A younger dog was found decapitated near the city's railroad tracks. The dog was apparently dead before someone deliberately placed it on the railroad line, she said.
Why they are increasing is anybody's guess, Geiger said. It's possible the pit bull violence stems from the breed's popularity and glamorization as pets for a criminal element.
"It's not just because we have suddenly started to notice it," she said. "There has been a rash of this. If it's because there are more of these breeds in our community and therefore they are being mistreated, I don't know."
If you talk to the animals they will talk to you, If you do not talk to them you will not know them. And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears,one destroys. ~Chief Dan George. (1899 - 1981)
MANITOWOC, Wis. (AP) - Seven high school students face illegal hunting charges for clubbing small game animals to death in what they referred to as "critter beating," a conservation warden says.
The students, who attend high school at Kiel about 20 miles southwest of Manitowoc, began the activities in spring of 2004, and the majority of it happened between May and October of last year, said Warden Robert Stroess of the state Department of Natural
Resources.
He said they would go at night and shine a light in an animal's face to immobilize it before attacking.
"They were going out and shining for animals, and one or more of them would beat the animal to death with a golf club, a baseball bat, garden tools, a hockey stick and a metal pipe," Stroess said.
The charges include 25 citations for hunting violations, Stroess said.
The students are scheduled for initial appearances in Manitowoc County Circuit Court April 19, he said.
If convicted, they face fines, revocation of hunting, fishing and trapping licenses and confiscation of hunting equipment, Stroess said.
:arrow: What is wrong with all these turds?
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MANITOWOC, Wis. (AP) - Three of the seven high school students accused of killing wild animals in a sport they called "critter beating" were fined hundreds of dollars after two pleaded guilty and one pleaded no contest in Manitowoc County Circuit Court.
Four others charged in the case pleaded not guilty.
The seven teens from Kiel High School faced a total of 155 warnings and 25 citations from the state Department of Natural Resources, including firearms violations, shining wild animals, hunting in closed season and other violations in Manitowoc County, according to DNR warden Robert Stroess.
Most of the activity was last year, but some occurred in 2004, he said.
"They were going out and shining for animals, and one or more of them would beat the animal to death with a golf club, a baseball bat, garden tools, a hockey stick and a metal pipe," he said. He said the students gave it the name of "critter beating."
The fines handed down for three teens Wednesday ranged from $689 to $806. Each had hunting, fishing and trapping privileges suspended for one year.
The four who pleaded not guilty will have pretrial hearings scheduled.
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Those individuals responsible for this incident are most likely deficient in certain human personality traits. Their behavior is an outrage. They apparently need some counselling, or reprogramming, because there obviously has'nt been a sence of respect for fellow living beings. Our society has been giving individuals like these the blind eeye for too long. Being as they were youths, a good look at what the parents are/were telling their children as to the right and wrongs of killing is.
Dozens of cats taken from an Appleton home last week, have all been put down.The Humane Society says all of the cats tested positive for feline leukemia. The cats were taken from the home after a welfare check on an Appleton home turned up more than forty cats living in unhealthy conditions. The house was later declared uninhabitable by authorities.
The Fox Valley Humane Associated was waiting to place the cats until some preliminary tests came back. Today, we learned that all of the cats tested positive for feline leukemia. That's a deadly and contagious disease that could have been prevented through routine veterinary care.
The Humane Association got the tests back on Friday. They then euthanized the 31 remaining cats over the weekend. Earlier in the week, ten other cats died, seven were stillborn and three others died less than 24 hours after being born.
Officials say feline leukemia is passed through blood and saliva... so it would have been very easy for the neglected cats to pass it on to each other.
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If you talk to the animals they will talk to you, If you do not talk to them you will not know them. And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears,one destroys. ~Chief Dan George. (1899 - 1981)
how do you people know that it was a GUY who did that? First off, there is NO such thing as god, so why even bother to mention that these creatures are children of god? and what is a single duck or goose going to do to help out anybody? people EAT these animals for sustinance, so why does it matter if ONE more dies? you people need to get a life and realize that animals are stupid and not worth anybody's time. why dont you go out and so something with your life besides worring about animals who do not care about any of you!
It is people like you that keep hurting the animals. All animals have feeling and can feel pain, love and so on. Also if you can hurt an animal more than likely you will do the same thing or worse to humans. Think about it. I would love to be an animal cop or anyway to protect animals.
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how do you people know that it was a GUY who did that? First off, there is NO such thing as god, so why even bother to mention that these creatures are children of god? and what is a single duck or goose going to do to help out anybody? people EAT these animals for sustinance, so why does it matter if ONE more dies? you people need to get a life and realize that animals are stupid and not worth anybody's time. why dont you go out and so something with your life besides worring about animals who do not care about any of you!
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how do you people know that it was a GUY who did that? First off, there is NO such thing as god, so why even bother to mention that these creatures are children of god? and what is a single duck or goose going to do to help out anybody? people EAT these animals for sustinance, so why does it matter if ONE more dies? you people need to get a life and realize that animals are stupid and not worth anybody's time. why dont you go out and so something with your life besides worring about animals who do not care about any of you!
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First of all YOU ARE VERY CRUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secondly, When it comes down to animals I'm pretty sure majority of American's will agree with Crickett. Even hunters who take game down for sustenance will humanely euthanize a wounded animal to take away its misery of a slow death.
Can you name even one single species of our GOD's CHILDREN that doesn't live in groups as a family and display emotion? You are a homo-sapian right? Just to prove my point I'd like to say we are also categorized as animals that share nearly 99 percent our genetic makeup with the chimpanzees.
Do you ever cry, show anger, feel pain or become scared? I have seen animals in my own home and in the wild display these EMOTIONS.
So as Crickett states its individuals like you whom need to be locked up because you would be a candidate to terrorism, serial killing, sex predator and other mental behaviors.
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: What right do you have to be at this website if your just going to knock around what the majority of us bubbler members feel. Keep your shrewdness to yourself.
Regards,
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FORUM MODERATOR AJE
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Atheists have as much right to their lack of religion as you do to your Christianity. If the concensus of the site is that Atheists aren't allowed to say that they don't believe in your god, then those of any religion are also not allowed to say they do believe in a god or gods. I prefer to allow both, because I value diversity, but if it's going to start a flame war, I'm going to nix the whole thing entirely.
SPECIFICALLY: I'm not going to censor someone to remove "animals are god's children" but I'm also not going to tolerate bashing someone who doesn't think they are.
I'm getting very tired of people expecting to be able to wave their own religion around on these forums but condemning other religions or blasting me when I level the same requirements across the board to EVERYONE regardless of their religion or lack of. This is the last time I'm going to say it. If I have to do so again I'm just going to start deleting ALL posts where people reference their religion or lack of. Period.
Edit: The posts that I wrote this in reference to were edited/deleted by the users, which I appreciate. I am, however, still DONE with religion-bashing and will not tolerate it any more. I've tried being nice and asking and the response is usually "If I was a D instead of E you wouldn't be asking me to stop" (regardless of what D and E are, any religions or philosophy you can name). I'm not asking any more.
you people need to get a life and realize that animals are stupid and not worth anybody's time. why dont you go out and so something with your life besides worring about animals who do not care about any of you!
Perhaps it was asked in a completely ignorant way, but I think the underlying question of the post above is, "Why do you care about animal rights?" Here are my reasons:
- Animals can feel pain. Pain inflicted on animals is often caused by man, from outright abuse to the poisoning and destruction of an animal's habitat. Animals cannot speak out against a subdivision destroying their home, or a moronic teenager shooting them with a BB gun. I have a voice and I want to use it for those that cannot speak.
- I have grown up with pets and know that they experience joy and sorrow just as we do. You can't tell me my cats don't smile, or my Oscar doesn't fret when his dinner is late.
- As a whole, I much prefer the company of animals to people. Animals are so willing to serve us, while people are usually looking to find what's in it for them. I am greeted by a menagerie of pets when I arrive home, and the cacophony of mews tells me I am wanted.
- Abusing animals is often a gateway to more serious crimes and should be prosecuted severely. Many killers abused animals before turning to people. Steven Avery brutally killed a cat years before he murdered Teresa Halbach.
So I will ask back, "Why should we not care about animal rights?"
ASPCA isn't here to give a pat on the back to all those who protect the animals rights, but I'm pretty sure they are saying a sincere thank you. :P
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i am not a very cruel person, i just use logic over emotion. it is not i who is a candidate for a terrorist, sexual predator or other such irregular people, just due to the fact that i believe that common animals are not worth as much as many humans seem to think. it is not that i am being shrewd either, i am merely stating that animals who lack superior thinking or cognitive thoughts such as humans are not worth the time of day. i have never deliberatly been cruel to animals or otherwise, so it is not right to profile me as such a person. there is no specific correlation to abusing animals and then later in life abusing people. if i were an animal in this world, i'd much rather die than to live in a world where the human inhabatants have devestated the land and lay waste to their homes.
The site also features records of animal abuse in Wisconsin (warning - some accounts are graphic). Should horrific abuse be justified because it is happening to animals, not people? No living creature deserves to have its head bashed in with a hammer.
just because there are specific references to certain individuals who started killing animals then continued to kill people, doesnt mean there is any correlation.
Actually, there IS correlation between animal abuse and later human abuse and murder. It's considered a key indicator in criminal profiling.
Here are some sources:
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What makes a common person a Serial Killer?
According to research, serial killers exhibit what is known as the 'Triad of Warning Signs in Childhood.'
Indicators include:
* Firestarting, invariably just for the thrill of destroying things
* Cruelty to Animals: Most children can be cruel to animals, such as pulling the legs off of spiders, but future serial killers often kill larger animals, like dogs and cats, and frequently for their solitary enjoyment rather than to impress peers.
* Bedwetting beyond the age when children normally grow out of such behavior.
*The FBI considers animal cruelty to be one of the predictors of violence and considers past animal abuse when profiling serial killers.
*National and state studies determined that from 54 to 71 percent of women seeking shelter reported that their partners had threatened, injured or killed one or more family pets (Anicare Model workshop, Tacoma 2004). If children are victims of domestic violence they may in turn represent that abuse with an animal, the only being they feel they can control.
*In assessing youth who are at risk of committing interpersonal violence, the U.S. Department of Justice emphasizes the importance of including information about past animal abuse.
*More than 80 percent of families being treated for child abuse were also involved in animal abuse. In 2/3 of the cases, the abusive parent killed or injured the pet. Sadly, in 1/3 of the cases, a child victim continued the cycle of violence by abusing a pet.
*A study in 1997 by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and Northeastern University found that 70 percent of all animal abusers have committed at least one other criminal offense and that almost 40 percent had committed violent crimes against people. They also found that over a 20-year period, a group of individuals who had abused animals as youths were five times more likely to commit violent crimes, four times more likely to commit property crimes and three times more likely to have drug or disorderly conduct offenses than a matched group of non animal abusers.
Kellert and Felthous (1985) found that violent, incarcerated men reported higher rates of "substantial cruelty to animals" in childhood (25 percent) than a comparison group of nonincarcerated men (0 percent). A similar difference emerged in a study of assaultive and nonassaultive women offenders (Felthous and Yudowitz, 1977): 36 percent of the former group reported cruelty to animals compared with 0 percent of the latter.
Miller and Knutson (1997) examined self-reports of animal abuse by 299 inmates incarcerated for various felony offenses and 308 introductory psychology class undergraduates.2 The percentages of inmates and undergraduates, respectively, reporting the following types of animal abuse were as follows: "Hurt an animal?" 16.4 percent and 9.7 percent, "Killed a stray?" 32.8 percent and 14.3 percent, and "Killed a pet?" 12 percent and 3.2 percent.
More recently, Schiff, Louw, and Ascione (1999) surveyed 117 men incarcerated in a South African prison about their childhood animal abuse. Of the 58 men who had committed crimes of aggression, 63.3 percent admitted to cruelty to animals; of the 59 nonaggressive inmates, the percentage was 10.5 percent.
In a study of 28 convicted, incarcerated sexual homicide perpetrators (all men), Ressler, Burgess, and Douglas (1988) assessed the men’s self-reports of cruelty to animals in childhood and adolescence. Childhood animal abuse was reported by 36 percent of the perpetrators, and 46 percent admitted to abusing animals as adolescents. Thirty-six percent of these men said they had also abused animals in adulthood. In a study by Tingle et al. (1986) of 64 convicted male sex offenders, animal abuse in childhood or adolescence was reported by 48 percent of the rapists and 30 percent of the child molesters.
Taken together, these studies suggest that animal abuse may be characteristic of the developmental histories of between one in four and nearly two in three violent adult offenders.
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