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Old 04-11-2009, 07:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How would you resolve the pirate situation?

What would you do if you were President?

Me?

Well, there can be no question that as a country we have compassion and charity when we're hauling boatloads (literally) of food to poor foriegn countries and giving it away for free.

So in that context, my motto is "we can be you're best friend or your worst enemy".

Now, when an american ship is hijacked in international waters, flying an american flag, It would not matter to me if it's called terrorism, piracy, a criminal action or lunacy. My reaction would be the same.

I would, on the first night, utilize my best option.

I would have dropped about 12 Navy Seals in the water under cover of darkness. They would have approached with stealth and unmatched skill. They would have positioned themselves on the main ship and alongside the lifeboat and on shore by the base camp. On the commandors signal, the base camp would be destroyed, the pirates would be dead.

Done.

Message to future hijackers: Try to hijack an American ship, you die.

My conscience is clear. I didn't kill them, they killed themselves with their actions.
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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

I hate to hijack your pirate thought
but sometimes pirates are people with naught
food to eat
medicine to cure
shelter from the elements
schools that teach
Like Mr Covey says
before reacting with a forceful hand
we first me must seek to understand
where do they come from
what motivates their actions
are they simple people
or criminals from subversive factions
so many questions
we need to explore
before we can judge
and respond without remorse

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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

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I hate to hijack your pirate thought
but sometimes pirates are people with naught
food to eat
medicine to cure
shelter from the elements
schools that teach
Like Mr Covey says
before reacting with a forceful hand
we first me must seek to understand
where do they come from
what motivates their actions
are they simple people
or criminals from subversive factions
so many questions
we need to explore
before we can judge
and respond without remorse

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Fair enough. But I disagree. I think I can judge because there really isn't any question on motivation. It's not for food, medicine, shelter, schools. It's pure money.

BBC NEWS | Africa | Somali pirates living the high life
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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

I agree with you there.. those guys aren't building hospitals, schools, or food pantrys with that ransom.. they're buying SUV's and pool tables along with cases of beer.. and more cases of beer.

The communities aren't benefitting from piracy.

Navy Seals to the rescue, plus those coasts need to be patrolled more "aggressively", shall we say.

Let's send in Capn' Crunch..


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Fair enough. But I disagree. I think I can judge because there really isn't any question on motivation. It's not for food, medicine, shelter, schools. It's pure money.

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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

Well, Obama did it right. Sent in the Navy (probably the SEALS) and got our man back. 3 out of 4 dead pirates. Not a bad score. Maybe we'll get 'em all next time.

Just goes to show, it doesn't pay to negotiate with this type. Better off to do the right thing right away.
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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

Hard as it is sometimes, you're right there..

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Well, Obama did it right. Sent in the Navy (probably the SEALS) and got our man back. 3 out of 4 dead pirates. Not a bad score. Maybe we'll get 'em all next time.

Just goes to show, it doesn't pay to negotiate with this type. Better off to do the right thing right away.
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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

By the way, John.. I don't want you to think I don't see your point of view and sympathize with it (see: You are being lied to about pirates | San Francisco Bay View)..

I just don't condone taking innocent people hostage to make a point for whatever reason.

I think the media is going to perhaps push your point a bit and maybe something can be done about the illegal dumping and fishing (amongst other things) in that region as well as make an attempt to ease the hunger and extreme poverty.

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I hate to hijack your pirate thought
but sometimes pirates are people with naught
food to eat
medicine to cure
shelter from the elements
schools that teach
Like Mr Covey says
before reacting with a forceful hand
we first me must seek to understand
where do they come from
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are they simple people
or criminals from subversive factions
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Re: How would you resolve the pirate situation?

Alright, phase 2:

Note the section in this article "Pirates vow revenge". U.S. Navy rescues captain, kills Somali pirates | Reuters

Now that we have our men safe, it's time to act on the pirates (as far as I'm concerned) declaration of war.

They started it, now they're complaining about the results of there actions and have actually threatened U.S. and French citizens.

We need to go in there and absolutely destroy all of their (known) pirate camps on shore. No hesitation, no negotiations, no remorse.

Obama did the right thing on the rescue, don't stop now. The world is watching.
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Alright, phase 2:

Note the section in this article "Pirates vow revenge". U.S. Navy rescues captain, kills Somali pirates | Reuters

Now that we have our men safe, it's time to act on the pirates (as far as I'm concerned) declaration of war.

They started it, now they're complaining about the results of there actions and have actually threatened U.S. and French citizens.

We need to go in there and absolutely destroy all of their (known) pirate camps on shore. No hesitation, no negotiations, no remorse.

Obama did the right thing on the rescue, don't stop now. The world is watching.

Here, here, we take far to much from small independant groups. How many ships do we let be put in danger? They don't want freighters & passenger ships to carry weapons, so who will defend them against these mauraders?
Although if they could carry some type of deterrent, I bet we would see allot less of this nonsense. A few well placed, large caliber rounds would give them food for thought before they tried to board another one.
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