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Old 11-28-2008, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did you hear about the employee at a Wa lMart killed this morning while opening up the store?
It's every Black Friday shopper's and security guard's worst nightmare.

Overeager shoppers jostling to get into a Wal-Mart on New York's Long Island trampled an employee to death this morning in the rush to snatch some good deals.

Also caught in that chaos at the Valley Stream, N.Y., store: a 28-year-old pregnant woman and at least three other shoppers who suffered minor injuries.

According to a police statement, the death happened at 5:03 a.m., minutes after Wal-Marts across the country opened their doors to the holiday rush.

The employee, a 34-year-old man, suffered "an undetermined death" when a "throng of shoppers ... physically broke down the doors, knocking him to the ground," according to the statement. He was declared dead at a nearby hospital at 6:03 a.m.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Bad Economy? 40,000 People Showed Up

Heard about it.. sad testimony to the commercialization of America.
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Re: Bad Economy? 40,000 People Showed Up

How terrible. I feel so bad for the parents/family of this person that was only trying to do a job. Shame on the people that feel it so necessary to save a few bucks. Hope the ones that was in the front of the lines, and they know who they are, read this article and feel really awful when giving out their presents this year.

And since I'm on this rant, I think all the stores that offer these 'great' sales need to start re-thinking this gimmick of getting people to shop. Personally I think this getting up early and only being allowed a few hours to shop in the conditions you end up in, (crowds, long lines, full parking lots), needs to stop. Even if it means not finding as good of sales.

We need to go back to having 'normal' sales or have a good sale and let it run longer so people don't feel so pressured to get in and out quickly! If this store had done that a person's life would have been spared.
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Re: Bad Economy? 40,000 People Showed Up

PALM DESERT, Calif. - Authorities say two people have been killed inside a Toys "R" Us store in Southern California.

Riverside County sheriff's Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez says Palm Desert police got a call saying shots had been fired inside the store Friday.

He says two people are dead inside, but further details were not immediately available.
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Shots fired at Toys R Us in Palm Desert; 2 dead | L.A. Now | Los Angeles Times

Inside a toy store where so many children could be hurt. I'm interested in what made someone go so crazy....
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All sad.. and moved to it's own on topic thread
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Re: Shoppers Trample Walmart Worker To Death

Someone lost a loved one, for someone else to save a buck. There is no deal good enough that ends someone else's life. My prayers go out to his family.
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Re: Shoppers Trample Walmart Worker To Death

Every year there's something similar, with people being trampled... you're just saving a few bucks people!
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Re: Shoppers Trample Walmart Worker To Death

2 gunmen kill each other in shootout at Toys R Us in Palm Desert - Los Angeles Times

Here's a link to the shooting in the Toys R Us Store. Just awful to read how this can happen. What do we need now? Metal detectors in our toy stores? These two groups walked into the toy store with guns. Maybe next time we all are in a toy store or any store for that matter, look around at everyone near you and think, 'do they have a gun hidden'? Anytime we see a couple of people arguing, should we hit the floor? Run for the nearest exit? Makes me wonder.
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Re: Shoppers Trample Walmart Worker To Death

I heard about both stories. I blame the stores with the sales that they offer. People end up fighting or someone gets hurt or worse. Yet another reason for me to stay home on Black Friday. Not that I've ever gone out, but just another reason to not go out.
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In some countries people fight over the last bag of rice off the UN truck and that's understandable. Here we fight over an Xbox on sale and that's not:

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"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling, 'I've been on line since yesterday morning,"' she said. "They kept shopping."

FOXNews.com - Police Reviewing Video to Identify Shoppers in Wal-Mart Stampede That Killed Worker - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

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Re: Shoppers Trample Walmart Worker To Death

This type of behavior seems completely unexcusably to us. remember we're from the Midwest however.
if you have spent any amount of time on the east coast outside of tourist attractions you would not be so shocked by this behavior.

Im not, not at all.

from personal experience I can testify that the people on the east coast are exactly this self centered, and uncaring. It was not unusual for someone to die on a sidewalk and have people walk around the body for days. one of the reasons I quit trucking was because i never want to see the east coast ever again.

This is just the way people act out there. everything is about them, and what they can get!

my statements might even seem careless, but you would actually have to experience the condition of humanity out there in new york to understand.

That poor guy or others like him had probably leaped out of the way hundreds of times before when opening the doors, Friday he didn't move fast enough.
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Do you work for Wal Mart? Why put the blame on the people? Who created the mob by advertising once in a lifetime sales that there is only one of? Who allowed the crowd outside of the store not to be in a single file line? Who ordered the doors to be opened when clearly there was a mob out of control?
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You cant get any more middle America than that!
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Re: Shoppers Trample Walmart Worker To Death

Well, I don't think we can isolate rude behavior to any one segment of the country... I've lived on the East coast, in the South, in the Southwest, the Northeast, the West.. and now the Midwest and I've met rude, ignorant people everywhere I've lived as well as thoughtful, caring individuals. First and foremost, America is a melting pot..

The problem is not that there are rude, uncaring, self-centered people, but that those people unfortunately seem to be in the majority these days. Of course I say that empirically, but I stand by it.

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Well said Dave.
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Depressing to read this.

I remember reading about people killed in a rush to get into a rock concert. Those in the first 10 or 15 rows were doing all they could to push back against the mass of (in)humanity behind them.

I would hope that in the same situation I'd be smart enough to forget the bargains and leave.

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