Another shooting / Virginia Tech

[CarolsCritterCare]

I"m just hearing it come across the radio now.

A shooting at Virginia Tech. 21 dead including the gun man.

They are saying this is the deadliest campus shooting in history.

I though Columbine was........?

So very sad. Sending prayers out to these families involved.

Carol

[oneinthewoods]

I guess it is not gonna quit, with the killings. Now they are talking about gun control....hello???????? How about cost control first?

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

I have had it with the feds taking everything away from us, then they make us pay outrageous prices for everything. Now they may take away guns? I don't think so! That is my right to bare arms, and they aint taking that right away. What they need to do is put more money into the schools to keep kids safe, instead of using it all for this so called war, political lobster dinners, and poisonous wheat from China. We have evrything we need, and we are American Idiots for living the way we do, or the way we are paying them to rule the world. This country is a disgrace and we are the very people who are doing it to ourselves. Sad thing, it will never get better, until it gets worse. They look at the weapons, instead of problem people, and the problems all come from the government.

[2-wi]

I feel so bad for these people and the hundreds of family and friends who will now have to suffer with the loss of a loved one because of the stupidity of someone else. My thoughts are with all of them.

I'm watching the news right now and they are saying that this guy was 23 yrs old, a alien from S Korea and a student there. They said yesterday that he was looking for his ex-girlfriend. I know things like that are hard on people but that's no reason what's so ever to go and take it out on anyone around you. I think they need to have more people for students to be able to go to, to talk to someone about things that are bothering them. Or if someone breaks up with someone else for example they should go to someone and tell them and say that they don't know how they will react to this and they could be watched. So many people lose their minds over this and you never know what they will do. I know it sounds extreme for things like this but if it prevents something like this from happening then why not.

[CarolsCritterCare]

I just turned on the TV to watch "General Hospital" (yes I'm a junkie)
and they are broadcasting live ceremony at V. Tech right now.

It appears to be a beautiful service. The attendance is great as the cameras scan the room/auditorium.......

Carol

[2-wi]

Yes I watched it from beginning to end, and towards the end the tears came. There's just no words to explain how this makes a person feel, and to try and figure it out.

From when I saw the news this morning they were saying some of things that I posted earlier and then as the day went by it was changing again. They may or may not figure it all out.

I'm not sure if this is going to sound cruel but whatever was wrong with this person, whatever it was that he was dealing with it will be nothing compared to what he will have to endure with his eternity in hell.

[CarolsCritterCare]

I did not catch it from the beginning. I seem to have tuned in towards the end. Without even seeing all of it, I had the tears as well.

Carol

[AlumniClub]

Columbine did not have as high of a death count as VT did

[MrKhay]

WOW...This is just the story to end the media coverage of the Don Imus story.

[nathan]

Don Imus?

[MrKhay]

http://infowars.com/articles/us/va_t...fathomable.htm

In an eye-opening spur-of-the-moment interview, done on the April 17 Alex Jones radio show, former “long-term” university police officer, George French, questioned why police did not immediately seal off the campus on the morning of the VA Tech shootings.

French has written on the subject of school attacks in the past and possesses valuable experience in and knowledge of university police procedures and norms, lending credence to his comments given Tuesday.

Referring to various styles of campus layouts, including open campuses that have many access points, French stated that it is “routine practice at every campus to seal it off.”

“Setting up a series of roadblocks, controlling access to very large pieces of property, is very much routine on any university campus in Canada and in the United states.”

French continued: “after a double homicide, when you're looking for a dangerous fellow with a firearm, I find it unfathomable that a series of roadblocks weren't set up…to prevent the felon from escaping.”

“It's beyond belief,” French stated. “If you had a snowstorm, the whole education system can be shut down with a few phone calls.” Maps of the VA Tech campus show that “a series of 12 or 15 road blocks” is all that would be needed, and should be implemented immediately by local police in the event of a shooting. However, this basic, standard response was not followed that morning.

Referring to numerous American university policy procedures and handbooks that he has personally read, French explained, “they have very serious plans in effect to use all county, state, and local law enforcement to come to the aid of the university.”

French cited another case, the Ecole Polytechnique Massacre in Montreal, where officers were “ordered not to intervene” and “told to wait outside…I think it was a black op then.” In Blacksburg also, we saw police “cowering and hiding.”

Cautioning, that “we can only hypothesize at this point,” French could find no logical conclusion other than deliberate inaction on the part of officials. “We have another coordinated, allowed event…the parallels are so common in each case; you can write the script in advance.”

[Bukmastr]

Back in early 2006, a plan in the Virginia legislature to allow for concealed carry on the state’s college campuses failed in subcommittee. A representative of Virginia Tech said that the bill’s defeat would make “parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

That "Represenitive" of V.T. was responsible for the campus being unarmed during the attack. And publicized "we are unarmed" across all the newspapers.

Schools should have harsh rules against students bringing weapons to school, however, the proffessors, teachers, deans, etc... Who have a clean record, and a complete knowlage of how and when to use a gun, should by all means be able to take a coarse that would enable them to carry a conceled gun.

These people who commit this type of crime are cowards.. When is the last time you heard of one of these guys walking into a police station or Military base and open fireing... They seek out unarmed people who will make easy targets.

Out law guns, and law abiding people will not break the law and carry a gun. But law breaking criminals are seldom stopped by laws. A foolish law that don't do anybody any good.

If a few of the personal would of had been trained and were armed, the bad guy probably still would of killed a few. But many lives could of been saved, many wounded could have been avoided.... And the hundreds if not 1000's of people whose lives were tragicly altered by this event maybe could of been lowered a bit.

[kmfarm]

Dan,

Gun control is a hot button issue. But I pretty much agree with you. Gun control and gun laws are usually just "feel good" politics that doesn't address crime and/or criminals.

You could outlaw all guns and criminals would still have them. How do you stop a killer who is willing to commit suicide or die? You can't. Sad to say, but this kind of thing is probably unstoppable. However, crimes commited with a firearm should be dealt with more harshly than it is now.

The penal system is too willing to parole criminals on the grounds of overcrowding. Civil liberties you know. As far as I'm concerned, pack 'em in until they ooze out the windows. If they need room, put them on a chain gang. Prison is not supposed to be comfortable.

I'm getting tired of working my a** off, paying taxes, obeying the law and watching low life criminals living off my efforts. Either by welfare or by getting cheap room and board in a nice jail cell where they're usually plotting their next crime for when they get out (too soon). You think they're planning their upcoming job interview?

Mark