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Old 10-23-2006, 05:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Studying a foreign language

So I got a suggestion from someone who teaches Spanish that a good way to help comprehension in a foreign language is to read books, watch tv and listen to radio and podcasts in that language. Even if you don't understand the words now, as you learn more from studying, you will learn even more from context, the same way you learn your first language, and your grasp of the sound of the language, your accent and your ability to decipher the accents of speakers of that language, will also go up.

So I've added some non-English podcasts to my usual roundup (I recommend iTunes even for non-Mac users. They have a pretty extensive podcast directory and it's all free). This morning I was listening to a technology newscast in modern Greek and I was really surprised to realize how many words I actually could pick up. Some are easy, sure (kata and alla, 'and' and 'but', for instance, which are the same as Attic) but I really didn't think I was ready to listen to a full-force modern Greek anything. Language lessons are usually at a slow pace and when you start listening at full speed it can be a little overwhelming. But I understood enough to get the basic idea of the story (Google buying YouTube) and I think listening with the understanding that you aren't going to understand everything and shouldn't necessarily stress over that really took the "overwhelming" out of it.

That makes... 13? Basic fluency in Spanish and German (reduced by lack of use...), Attic Greek, Latin, and Egyptian hieroglyphs, very introductory French, Italian, Modern and Homeric Greek, the modern Egyptian dialect of Arabic, Irish, Welsh... and a right cracking British accent from all that BBC watching/listening and using British recordings for language learning

Heh. That's not so much as it looks like. Really it's not. Most of those are only very elementary progress and not something I would count myself fluent in, though that suggestion about listening and watching looks like it will make a pretty big difference there.

Is anybody else out there working on a foreign language? Which ones? What sort of things do you do to practice and learn? Do you have any recommendations on programs or brands or classes that are particularly good?
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My two younger children as well as my grandson, (grandson is same age as my son)...all started Kindergarten in a duo language school. It was a wonderful start for them. The first year they were taught a 90/10 concept. 90% Spanish and only 10% English was spoken during class time. It was awesome to see how quickly each child would catch on and learn a second language this way. Everyday activities became a new challenge to them since they now was 'hearing' a new way of understanding. They did not only learn to read but also to write so by the time each one was out of 5Th grade they had become not only bi-lingual, but bi-literate also.

Each year English was introduced more each day until by 3rd grade they were on a 50/50 model and by 5th grade it was switched so that it was more like 70-80% English.

Two are now in middle school and doing college level Spanish. They are also taking French and my one daughter has also taken up Chinese by going to a Chinese language school on Saturdays.

I truly believe that their love of learning languages stems from starting at an early age. Statistics have proven that a child's brain learns differently at certain ages and the 'old concept' of waiting until high school to start a foreign language is totally incorrect. A child will not only learn a second language better at an earlier age but also will take on the accent and will become more fluent than one at an older age due to the difference we learn speech and sounds when we are younger.


To answer your question on what will help to learn a language? Involve your self as much as possible in ways of not only the language that you wish to learn but the culture as well. Go to multicultural events, attend a church where both languages are spoken, eat at resturants that specializes in the food from the country that you are learning the language. Take up a cooking class of the foods that they eat.

If you want to learn Spanish for example, there are also many good Spanish channels on T.V. that the shows are entirely in Spanish. We discovered Sesame Street is all in Spanish. (for young children of course).

Buy music in the language you are learning and learn to sing along.

Also there are many bilingual books available online where the pages are in both English and the language you would like to learn. Many with tapes that you can follow.

If you know someone that is totally fluent in the language you wish to learn, have them speak only to you in that language and try to guess what they are saying. It helps.

Involve yourself as much as possible in your daily life in the second language and soon you will pick up alot along the way.

One thing my daughter's 2nd grade teacher told me that peaked my interest. 'You will know when your child becomes bilingual, and that is when she starts to 'dream' in both languages. Also will forget how to say something in English and but knows it in Spanish." Well this has happened and it really showed us the program worked.

Learning a second, third or more languages opens the world up for our children. If you have a chance to start your child in a second language at an early age, please don't hesitate. Not only are you doing them a great favor for better job opportunities, but also they become much more understanding of other cultures.

Sorry! lol I sound like a commercial for duel language schools/programs but it has been a way of life around here for so long and I can't say enough about children and early learning.

I wish you and everyone luck in learning another language. As for me, I'm still working on English which has been my only language for me. lol My kids laugh at my 'Spanish'. lol And Chinese...well forget it..I think the only things I know is 'cat' and 'big head' and one sentence...about a school bus. lol don't ask!

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That's really cool! I didn't know there were schools that did that *jealous*. I wish I'd gone to one of those! If I have any more kids I'll have to keep that in mind when I'm deciding where to live while they're in school.

For most of one year in elementary I went to a school that was about 50/50 Spanish and English, but it wasn't planned that way, it was just that we were a mostly Hispanic neighborhood so most of the students and teachers had Spanish as their first language. I already knew a little Spanish because my mother taught me, but talk about trial by fire!

That year my best friend's family was from Viet Nam, though she was born here and spoke English, her mother and brother spoke vietnamese as their first language. Whew! I think I managed hello and goodbye and thank you, and that was about it (don't ask me now, it's been twenty-some years and I don't remember even those).

See now, I've got some books with Attic Greek on the left and English on the right (yay Oxford Classics!), but I have never seen any like that for modern languages. Do you have any good sources of them? Any particular publisher or online store that's got a particularly good selection? Our local Half Price Books has three columns of shelves devoted to non-English books, so I like to go in there for foreign language study books (I picked up a book on Sanskrit not so long ago, of all things).

Chinese is HARD. I can puzzle out most Western languages because I'm fond of studying linguistics and I'm familiar with many Indo-European languages but... Chinese and Japanese kicked my butt when I took a six week study camp that included them. I have nothing but respect for anyone who can pick Chinese up as a second language successfully.
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Re: Studying a foreign language

I've taken classes in French, German, Spanish, and Russian with Italian by proxy (my mom studied it in college).. can still read a bit of each but have lost most of it.
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Just read my reply back then and lol I did sound like a commercial for learning another language at an early age.

My daughter is now out of high school and I think the best thing we did for her was starting her out in a duo language school (Spanish), later making sure she had a chance to learn Chinese for 9 years and french and making sure she was acquinted with as many cultures as we could.
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